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Degrees in Infobox need appropriate ordering and FRCS addition:

| alma_mater =
Gujarat University (MD),
B. J. Medical College (MS),
Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh (FRCS)^[1],
University of Oxford (MSc),
Middlesex University (PhD),
Colorado Technical University (MBA)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuuzi (talk • contribs) 21:29, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 20-JUN-2019

Unable to implement

The claim of a degree from RCSE is not referenced in the main prose of the article, meaning its listing in the infobox would need a citation.
Some editors accept the subject's own sources as evidence of degrees, while others prefer the citation to originate with the college itself.^[a] Please provide the latter.
When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the {{request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no. Thank you!

Regards, Spintendo 06:34, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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^ There is no fixed rule for this requirement, which rests on an editor's preference and personal judgement. The guideline I use is WP:BLPSELFPUB, which states "There are living persons who publish material about themselves, such as through press releases or personal websites. Such material may be used as a source only if: (#3) it does not involve claims about third parties." As the claim of receiving a degree from a college involves a third party, my interpretation of this guideline is that its verification should come from the third party — in other words, the college — rather than the subject himself.

Thank you Spintendo, I have added the reference where I retrieved the information.Tuuzi (talk) 12:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "The Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh". Retrieved 2019-06-22.

No change to the infobox. The claim of receiving the FRCS professional qualification (to practice as a senior surgeon in Ireland or the United Kingdom) was not added, as the claim is not referenced by one of the colleges which is authorized to bestow that qualification. Regards, Spintendo 17:53, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is only an unlinkable member search where a user must input Rahul Jindal to retrieve the result, but he is listed on their member page. Is this update I've made acceptable?Tuuzi (talk) 03:32, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[2] There is no fixed rule for this requirement, which rests on an editor's preference and personal judgement. The guideline I use is WP:BLPSELFPUB, which states "There are living persons who publish material about themselves, such as through press releases or personal websites. Such material may be used as a source only if: (#3) it does not involve claims about third parties." As the claim of receiving a degree from a college involves a third party, my interpretation of this guideline is that its verification should come from the third party — in other words, the college — rather than the subject himself.

[1] "The Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh". Retrieved 2019-06-22.

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 Degrees in Infobox need appropriate ordering and FRCS addition:
-| alma_mater = <br>[[Gujarat University]] {{small|([[Medical Doctorate|MD]])}}, <br>[[B. J. Medical College]] {{small|([[Master of Science|MS]])}}, <br>[[Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh]] {{small|([[Fellowship of the Royal Colleges of Surgeons|FRCS]])}}, <br>[[University of Oxford]] {{small|([[Master of Science|MSc]])}},<br>[[Middlesex University]] {{small|([[Doctor of Philosophy|PhD]])}},<br>[[Colorado Technical University]] {{small|([[Master of Business Administration|MBA]])}}<ref>{{Cite web |title = USU Homepage |url = https://www.usuhs.edu/faculty-staff/rahul-m-jindal-md-phd-mba |accessdate = 2019-06-20}}</ref>
+| alma_mater = <br>[[Gujarat University]] {{small|([[Medical Doctorate|MD]])}}, <br>[[B. J. Medical College]] {{small|([[Master of Science|MS]])}}, <br>[[Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh]] {{small|([[Fellowship of the Royal Colleges of Surgeons|FRCS]])}}<ref>{{Cite web |title = The Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh |url = https://www.rcsed.ac.uk/membership-information/member-search |accessdate = 2019-06-22}}</ref>, <br>[[University of Oxford]] {{small|([[Master of Science|MSc]])}},<br>[[Middlesex University]] {{small|([[Doctor of Philosophy|PhD]])}},<br>[[Colorado Technical University]] {{small|([[Master of Business Administration|MBA]])}}
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 No change to the infobox. The claim of receiving the FRCS professional qualification (to practice as a senior surgeon in Ireland or the United Kingdom) was not added, as the claim is not referenced by one of the colleges which is authorized to bestow that qualification. Regards, <span style="font-size:75%;border:2px solid red;border-radius:50px;font-color:#00008b">[[User talk:Spintendo|<span style="color:#00008b;">&nbsp;<b>Spintendo</b>&nbsp;</span>]]</span> 17:53, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
+There is only an unlinkable member search where a user must input Rahul Jindal to retrieve the result, but he is listed on their member page. Is this update I've made acceptable?[[User:Tuuzi|Tuuzi]] ([[User talk:Tuuzi|talk]]) 03:32, 23 June 2019 (UTC)