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A Dobos torte for you!

7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it. To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

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April 2020

Ouch! You've used a template to send a message to an experienced editor. Please review the essay Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars or maybe listen to a little advice. Doesn't this feel cold, impersonal, and canned? It's meant in good humour. Best wishes. CatcherStorm ^talk 00:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

@CatcherStorm: I'm familiar with WP:DTR, but I'm not accustomed to having to revert regulars for making unsourced addtions, or not realizing that citations belong in the article rather than the edit summary. Anyway, I think you get the point, so let's move on. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 00:17, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

brain lol CatcherStorm ^talk 00:18, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Ashleigh Aston Moore

Regarding the note you left on my edit to Ashleigh Aston Moore's page, I can confirm that her birthday is actually September 30. If you google "Ashleigh Aston Moore birthday" or look her up on famousbirthdays.com, both sources say September 30, as do everywhere else. This is the only source that says it's November 13. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.222.160.75 (talk) 23:34, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Category:Rape of males and Category:Incidents of violence against boys

I just reverted this IP at a number of articles. And I see that you've reverted the IP on adding "Category:Rape of males." I'm not sure what is the best way to use these categories, but I know that IP needed to reverted on some of the changes. Any thoughts on where to address this matter?

No need to ping me if you reply. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 08:28, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I see that the latter of the two is up for deletion: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 April 12#Category:Incidents of violence against boys. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 08:31, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

RedWarn

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River Phoenix/Sabotage

So 1: None of the three paragraphs before the one you decided to delete have any citations:

Phoenix's friends, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, wrote a few lines for him in their hit song "Give It Away" from the 1991 album Blood Sugar Sex Magik: "There's a River born to be a giver, keep you warm won't let you shiver, his heart is never gonna wither ..." Phoenix also appears in the music video for their song, "Breaking the Girl" and following his death, the band paid tribute to him with the song "Transcending" (originally titled "River") on their 1995 album, One Hot Minute. Former Chili Peppers' guitarist, John Frusciante, dedicated the song "Smile From The Streets You Hold" to River Phoenix. Frusciante wrote the first part of the song about their friendship while Phoenix was still alive. After Phoenix's death, Frusciante wrote the second part in his memory.

Phoenix has been the subject of numerous other tributes in song and other media. The band R.E.M. dedicated their album Monster to Phoenix (as Michael Stipe and Phoenix were close friends), and their song "E-Bow the Letter" from 1996's New Adventures in Hi-Fi is said to have been written from a letter Michael Stipe wrote to Phoenix but never sent because of the actor's death. River Phoenix is referenced in the song "Sacred Life" from the eponymous album by the British band The Cult: "River Phoenix was so young, Don't you know your prince has gone?"

Ex-10000 Maniacs singer Natalie Merchant wrote and recorded a controversial song, simply named "River", featured on her 1995 solo album Tigerlily (Elektra). While she deplores this death of a "Young & strong Hollywood son" who was "one of ours", she criticizes strongly the excesses of the people's "vulture's candor" and the media's greedy attention to the event and adds: "Why don't you let him be ... /Give his father & his mother peace", as well as: "It's only a tragedy", ending with the real question behind it: "How could we save him / From himself?"

2: A simple search of "Sabotage beastie boys River Phoenix" in google gives you oh so many citations:

https://www.kerrang.com/features/a-deep-dive-into-beastie-boys-sabotage-video/

That’s kind of all there is to it, but it’s magnificent, as much due to the video as the track itself, an incredibly catchy punk/metal/rap hybrid that partly stemmed from Ad-Rock’s anger at dealing with paparazzi at his friend River Phoenix’s funeral.

https://apnews.com/84fea37f4e700a408615ba9491f7819c

LOS ANGELES (AP) _ A member of the Beastie Boys rap group was charged with attacking a ″Hard Copy″ cameraman and stealing his videotape outside a memorial service last month for actor River Phoenix.

Charges of battery and grand theft were filed Tuesday against Adam Horovitz, 27, said Mike Qualls, spokesman for the city attorney’s office.

Horovitz was asked to voluntarily show up for a municipal court arraignment Jan. 6.

The syndicated news magazine cameraman was allegedly beaten by Horovitz and another man after refusing to hand over a videotape of people arriving for a Nov. 4 memorial service for Phoenix, who died of a drug overdose Oct. 31. The service was at Horovitz’s home.

The other assailant was never identified, Qualls said.

The cameraman, whose name wasn’t released, finally removed the videotape from his camera and gave it to the attackers, authorities said.

Telephone messages left at Beastie Boys’ management, Gold Mountain Productions, and at ″Hard Copy″ offices weren’t immediately returned.

Grand theft is punishable by up to one year in jail and a $1,000 fine. Battery carries a maximum of six months in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Which was later turned out to be a lie:

http://exclaim.ca/music/article/beastie_boys-more_rhymes_than_grey_hairs

Ad Rock is falsely accused of hitting a Hard Copy cameraman during a private ceremony at his house for friend River Phoenix, who had died from a drug overdose.

3. The best one of all is from wikipedia itself. I'd know because I pretty much copy/pasted from another wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ill_Communication

The album's first single "Sabotage" was first laid down by all of the Beastie Boys playing instrumental parts at Tin Pan Alley Studios in New York, the whole driven by Adam Yauch's fuzzed and twangy bass. With the working title of "Chris Rock", the track sat unused for a year, lacking a vocal part. Then, after angrily confronting paparazzi at the Florida funeral of friend and actor River Phoenix in November 1993, Ad-Rock went to the home of producer Mario Caldato Jr. and rapped out his anger, recording the results on Caldato's 8-track tape machine, mixing the vocal with the earlier instrumental parts.[2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CD5E:9950:55A4:59A8:997E:15AD (talk) 02:21, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Weaknesses in other parts of the article do not mean that you (or anyone) can make additional unsourced edits. Take the time the click the blue links in the message I put on your talk page and read the relevant policies. Wikipedia is always a work in progress. "Other crap exists" is not an excuse for creating additional problems. Additionally, citations belong in the article, not on my talk page. See WP:CITE. Also, copying from another Wikipedia page does not eliminate the need for citing a reliable source in the article you copy it to. See WP:CIRCULAR. I appreciate your efforts, but Wikipedia has policies that must be followed. You need to read them. Start by clicking the blue links. Then for more information, then go to WP:RULES. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 02:34, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

White album

Which editing are you attributing to me? Ono being acknowledged as lead singer on Bungalow Bill or Harrison on While My Guitar gently Weeps or both? If it is both, its not a question of inaccuracy but how the information is presented in the page. I am not a regular contributor or expert in that field but it appeared to me inconsistent to accredit Ono as lead singer for about 6 words and not mention every other minute vocal contributor on the album. If it is that Harrison was listed as lead singer on WMGGW it is only because it appeared twice on the main page alongside the track listing, it being credited to Harrison we understand that it is a George Harrison song in the same way it says Lennon we know that it is a John Lennon song. It was really only about appearing consistent throughout the page. Feel free to keep it as it was if it matters to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.110.205.106 (talk) 00:10, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

The content of Wikipedia is determined by reliable sources, not your opinion or my opinion. Please read WP:RS and WP:NOR. In this edit, you removed reliably sourced information. Also look at the introductory sentence to the table: "All tracks written by Lennon–McCartney, except where noted". Harrison's name in parentheses after the title WMGGW indicates an exception to the Lennon-McCartney writing credit. Sundayclose (talk) 00:26, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

No need to attempt to lecture me on whether wiki is fact or opinion. It is not a fact that Ono is lead singer on Bungalow Bill any source will tell you that, where is your source for Ono being Lead singer on the song? is it rational to credit her or anyone else as contributing to the song, yes of course, but contributing vocals doesn't make you a lead singer. Listen to the song. The layout on the song crediting looks different from when I last saw it, but is it Surname only or Christian Name and Surname as non Lennon MacCartney compositions are listed inconsistently. Thank you and good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.110.205.106 (talk) 00:47, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't intend to lecture you. You can either accept Wikipedia's policies or move on to another website. Sundayclose (talk) 00:49, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Just go away you are annoying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.110.205.106 (talk) 00:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

3RR warning

This is the requisite notice that you are at the cusp of violating WP:3RR at Die Hard (film series). You are reverting two different editor. Please discuss at the article's talk page. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:51, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Tenebrae: Point taken. Thanks and apologies. Sundayclose (talk) 17:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Quite alright. Thank you for being gracious and collegial.--Tenebrae (talk) 17:53, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Beatles

It's completely mysterious to me. "Note" doesn't explain a thing. HiLo48 (talk) 00:58, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@HiLo48: Did you look at the edit? It's common in articles to note a deceased person with a dagger (†). The edit placed a dagger after the name of each deceased person. Sundayclose (talk) 01:13, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining. I saw the word "dagger" and had no idea what it meant. So your edit summary wasn't clear. Nor was that from BuffaloBob. And I've been editing here for over ten years, so careful with the assumptions. I hope we don't use the dagger because it ends up looking like a crucifix. HiLo48 (talk) 02:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@HiLo48: You're welcome. I'll be careful with assumptions. But you take the time to actually look at the edit as it appears in the article before reverting. Sundayclose (talk) 02:17, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

I DID look. HiLo48 (talk) 02:31, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@HiLo48: Not to belabor this, but did you see the daggers? And did you see the note near the bottom of the article: "†deceased"? Sundayclose (talk) 02:39, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Saw the daggers. Didn't see the note. Why would I? HiLo48 (talk) 02:42, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

@HiLo48: Because that was part of the edit, which is why I suggested that you look at the edit as it appears in the article before you revert. If you didn't see that note, that's the source of your confusion. But I think we've discussed this enough. Thanks for your comments. Sundayclose (talk) 02:45, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

In My Life

According to Ian MacDonald's book, Ringo did play tambourine on "In My Life". 193.119.79.167 (talk) 05:59, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

No, you're wrong. Stop making the edit. Sundayclose (talk) 15:22, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit to Bruce Welch page

Hi Sundayclose,

I edited the 'Shadowmania' section of the Bruce Welch page without citation because I attended the events in question, and was often involved backstage, often performing onstage. I am Justin Daish, one of the guitarists who played onstage with Bruce at Shadowmania 2012 (in addition to Daniel Martin who is mentioned on the allowed page entry), and there is publicly available footage to corroborate this; my edit not only included mention of my own involvement but also provides first-hand testimony of other notable musicians who appeared at the event over the 15 years it was held. I would appreciate if my archived edit could be re-instated.

All the best,

Justin MeBHank (talk) 12:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

@MeBHank: Thanks for your message, but I'm afraid that your personal experiences are not considered a reliable source by Wikipedia standards. Please read WP:RS carefully. Your personal experiences (or your identity) cannot be verified, and all content of Wikipedia must be verifiable. If Wikipedia allowed users' personal opinions it would be a huge, messy blog instead of an encyclopedia. I have a lot of personal knowledge that I could add to articles, but I don't. Feel free to try to find a reliable source to back up your edits. If you have questions about how to cite the information you can ask me, discuss it at the article's talk page, or add {{helpme}} to your talk page and someone will help you. Sundayclose (talk) 14:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

@Sundayclose: By those rules there is little verifiable evidence for any of the information already included in the 'Shadowmania' section other than the existence of the event, plus a significant amount of information elsewhere on the Bruce Welch page. I have hard copies of brochures/programmes from the event (scans of which can be emailed for verification), and there is plenty of video footage available from multiple sources. In the meantime I have made one small alteration with a link for verification. (Forgive me for not getting the formatting of this reply right (tabs, etc) but I'm not sure how as I'm unfamiliar with all aspects of code.) Cheers...MeBHank (talk) 01:24, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

@MeBHank: Wikipedia is always a work in progress, so there will always be problems. But the presence of other poorly sourced information in an article is not a legitimate reason to add more unsourced information. I doubt that scanned brochures would be considered reliable sources, but I'm no expert on such a matter; for more information inquire at WP:RSNB. I wouldn't know whether video footage is an adequate source unless I could see it. Sundayclose (talk) 01:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

"Unsourced" = flimsy excuse

Re my edit to the Magical Mystery Tour article which you reverted as "unsourced": yeah, like every word in the article is backed up by sources, as we couldn't even say the word "album" without a source to back it up. (Or specifically, we can't even point out that the British A Hard Day's Night and Help! albums had their soundtrack songs on side one, as obviously we are all blind and deaf to such blatant facts.) At least you bothered with one word to "justify" your actions, for which I guess I'm supposed to be grateful. Congratulations on defending the article against any useful additions, and insuring that Wikipedia wallows in mediocrity. You may just delete this, or possibly come up with some lame defense which you'll pretend carries any substance. In any event, your actions are utterly pitiful. 2601:545:8201:6290:E4B7:49C2:40AB:1D2D (talk) 15:31, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is always a work in progress. There will always be problems, including unsourced information. But "other crap exists" is not a legitimate excuse for creating more problems. Removing unsourced information is not a "flimsy excuse". It is Wikipedia policy. Take a minute or two to click and read the blue links in the message I sent you, especially WP:RS, as well as WP:V. If you don't want to adhere to Wikipedia policies, this is not the place for you. There are lots of blogs on the internet that would welcome your additions, sourced or unsourced. Sundayclose (talk) 16:14, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

The Beatles - Cry baby Cry

I've read that we have to cite sources if we want to modify a genre, and I understand that we need this rule (even though some sources can describe a song or an album with multile different and sometimes conflicting genres, and who decides if a source is attendable or not?), but we ALL should respect this rule. I think that if a song's genre is debatable is better to left the genre general, not specific. Rock is a general term to describe all kinds of rock music. You, Sundayclose, think that the song Cry Baby Cry by The Beatles fits in the music hall genre, but i think it fits more on the gothic rock genre, because of it's spooky and mysterious mood (but I didn't add it to the song's genre because i didn't have any source to support my opinion). So who's right? Who has the better musical knowledge? We can't find out that I think. We can find a source online to support our thesis, or we can add both generes musical hall and gothic rock, or we better leave the song's genre neutral (rock). Please reply to me, i don't want you to "No reply" XD.

If you wish to change a genre, you must get consensus on the article's talk page rather than making unilateral decisions and edit warring, as you have been doing. If you continue the page will be protected and you will not be able to edit the article. Sundayclose (talk) 16:41, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

A request

Please keep an eye on the article Sitar. Some users remove my edit without explanation. This is a request. Thank you! 119.42.56.102 (talk) 16:33, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

I Have Noticed that You Have Messaged Me

I left a description as to why the material was removed.

The quotation is a statement of propaganda by Erhman. In no way is it grounded in the scientific method and thus has no import with respect to the oral tradition.

In short, Erhman's personal bias rather than scholarship is the basis for the quote and worse, for the inclusion of it in the encyclopedia's page.

For its inclusion misleads the reader to believe the quote is a description of the oral tradition of the early Christian church. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:1109:A316:0:0:0:173 (talk) 00:52, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

You need to get consensus on the article's talk page to remove sourced content based on your personal opinion. See WP:CONSENSUS. Sundayclose (talk) 00:55, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

WHY ARE YOU ENGAGING IN A CHANGE WAR?

As explained, the Ehrman quote lacks scholarship. There is not even one hint of the scientific method in it.

The telephone game is not science and does not explain oral tradition for any people of any time in the history of mankind. Certainly, it does not explain the origin of the gospels. There are actual theories of oral tradition transmission including triple Mark.

Letting it stand reveals anti-Christian prejudice. It's like calling Christians n199ers.

Good luck! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:1109:A316:0:0:0:173 (talk) 01:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Dana Hill

Dana Hill needs page protection as it's under attack by an IP jumper who is determined to insert their claim that Hill is "best known" for a somewhat obscure animated series. PAustin4thApril1980 (talk) 02:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm not an admin. Go to WP:RPP. Sundayclose (talk) 02:14, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

That's probably an WP:LTA. Just an FYI....There's an LTA sock called the "best known as" vandal. Not sure exactly where the LTA is listed. Perhaps a regular at SPI would know. John from Idegon (talk) 17:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Please Please Me

These are not my personal opinions.

I don't understand why this misinformation is even in the article, because Andy White says that he drummed on the released performance, but that is so not true, because he wasn't even present on the November 26 session and he only played the September 11 session.

Geoff Emerick claimed that he saw Mal Evans set up Ringo's kit in the studio later that day, but that's impossible, because The Beatles didn't even know Mal yet and they didn't meet him until 1963.

You must've sent it to me by mistake.

60.241.226.149 (talk) 13:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

No mistake. The content of Wikipedia is determined by reliable sources that are properly cited in the article. Carefully read WP:RS and WP:CITE before making any additional edits. If you wish to edit here, you must follow policies. And it's pointless for you to message me or anyone until you do. You removed properly sourced information. Don't do it again.Sundayclose (talk) 14:07, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Please... Explain this to me...

Could you please explain how, by adding easily verifiable, previously publicly disclosed, information about a radio station I may or may not have been involved with years ago constitutes (a) red-flagging me for doing so, and then for good measure (b) removing information that is so basic, and so easily verifiable by anyone with a modicum of research capability, as to be accepted by anyone with basic common sense as being unbiased, not self-promoting, or whatever it is exactly you think is going on with this update? I mean, if you want I'm sure there are former volunteers or even listeners from the station who can provide the information that was restored in this update. So please... explain this to me like a child, because without that explanation? No offense, but this seems nothing short of idiotic.

Also, if you want to see an example of the type of content you actually should be censoring as self-promoting or perhaps less than factual? Check out the biography of Ross Shafer. If what I've posted about WKRP-LP is any of the things you're alleging? The guy editing this page ought to be banned from editing for life, without possibility of parole.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by RaleighRadioGaGa (talk • contribs) 15:40, 29 May 2020 (UTC) 

@RaleighRadioGaGa: If it's so "easily verifiable", then you should have no difficulty citing a reliable source for the edits you make, as you are required to do; as everyone is required to do. You have no special status that excuses you from that requirement, and other editors have no obligation to clean up after you. You have been told this repeatedly, and each warning has blue links that explain the policy, but apparently you felt no need to read the policies. Don't add the information again, and don't waste my time messaging me again, until you are willing to meet this requirement. Sundayclose (talk) 15:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

And the fact that other crap exists in other articles is entirely irrelevant. Problems in another article don't bestow a special dispensation for you to continue creating problems. Sundayclose (talk) 15:51, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Request for discussion

I didn't know that. I should have left it that way. Bernspeed (talk) 16:01, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Your revert on The Vast of Night

Whether a character is cocksure is a matter of opinion but proper punctuation is not. Compound modifiers preceding a noun always carry hyphens. Also, a series of adjectives preceding a noun should always be separated by commas. I have edited the sentence in question accordingly. Lechonero (talk) 14:16, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

@Lechonero: Thanks for your message, and I generally agree about the punctuation. Sundayclose (talk) 14:48, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edit on the Zapruder film article?

You claimed it was unsourced, but there is a source provided.

See Reference 1. 'The Other Shooter: The Saddest and Most Expensive 26 Seconds of Amateur Film Ever Made', quotation from source:...

"... Together, they drove to the television station WFAA for help, but their equipment wasn't sufficient. In the late afternoon, the film was taken to Eastman Kodak's Dallas processing plant where it was immediately developed, and, at 6:30 p.m., driven to the Jamieson Film Company, where three additional copies were exposed. By 8 p.m. Zapruder had the original and a copy, and handed the other two copies to Sorrels, who sent them to Washington. That left him with one extra copy of history's most famous home movie..."

Kindly explain what is wrong with my edit. This reference was already on the article (and your revert leaves it still on the article), and my edit merely expanded the information contained within that source.

Thanks. Crackersgreen (talk) 04:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@Crackersgreen: You're right. I acted too hastily, and just reverted my edit. Apologies. Sundayclose (talk) 14:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

No worries. I appreciate your apology and revert. Crackersgreen (talk) 00:31, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Victoria Vetri

We may disagree on the application of Wikipedia:FREER, however your warning on my page was out of bounds. You are also now driving an edit war on Victoria Vetri. I am going to restore the image once more. If you disagree please IFD the image. --evrik ^(talk) 01:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

@Evrik: This is not a matter of disagreement. It is a serious policy violation with potential legal implications. Restore the image again and we'll be discussing your behavior at WP:ANI. Wait for the decision about deletion. Sundayclose (talk) 01:47, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Jienum

I saw that you recently gave the above editor a Level 4 warning for adding unsourced information. Today they made this edit, which I reverted for not adding a source. I couldn't see a clear history of them adding unsourced info, so I'm reluctant to open an AIV case or take other action myself, but you're welcome to do so if you feel it's warranted. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 02:39, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Doniago: Thanks for your message. If you look at Jienum's talk page, there are numerous warnings for a variety of policy violations, including adding original research, which is close to the same as adding unsourced information. Some of the warnings are for worse infractions, including personal attacks. This person has edited for 14 years but on the rare occasion when they respond to warnings they act as if they have little knowledge of how things work on Wikipedia. I don't think it would take much to get a block. That being said, the edit you linked is the kind that I usually don't revert. There's no citation, but the information is easily confirmed in the linked article (Robert Redford). But I would have no objection if you reported it at WP:AIV. When editors like this rack up many warnings with no consequences I think the warnings become meaningless. Sometimes only a block will get their attention. Sundayclose (talk) 02:53, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

After checking their edit history, I did see issues with them failing to provide sources, though unfortunately other editors haven't been warning them on such occasions. Coupled with your above comment it was enough for me to make a filing at AIV, though I'm really not sure whether that will go anywhere. I would invite you to add a comment if you feel you can make a stronger case. DonIago (talk) 03:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Ron Jeremy booking information

Are you telling me that the LA county jail inmate information is not a valid source for information about inmates that are inside the LA county Jail? What would you consider a valid ref for this to be if it is not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8802:2200:1430:7938:C662:A569:6B32 (talk) 03:08, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

You have to type his name in to get the results page. Ronald Hyatt then you push the search button and boing, his booking info pops up like a - well use your imagination here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8802:2200:1430:7938:C662:A569:6B32 (talk) 03:13, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Magical negro

I replaced "white people" with the more neutral "popular culture" because the "white people" in this context is a negatively charged description. We are talking about the entertainment industry here, not a whole race. 92.220.125.90 (talk) 01:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Correction of Lee Atwater's Quote on "Southern Strategy"

The minor correction I am making is the last word of Lee Atwater's dialogue, which isn't "backbone" as you have presented it, but "back-burner". Backbone in this context makes no sense and is also incorrect, because for 2 reasons;

Listen closely to the exclusive interview with Atwater and you'll notice he says "back-burner", not "backbone". And, in Mr. Jeffery Robinson's (from the ACLU) presentation on Racism in America, he confirms the very same thing.

It makes sense that Atwater uses the idiom/euphemism "coming on the back-burner" to describe his racist policy.

Coming on the backbone makes no sense.

Thank you.

ZeekJL (talk) 16:11, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Please explain

Please explain why you made this revert? As a rule, any revert that is not reverting obvious vandalism should be explained in the edit summary, see Wikipedia:Reverting#Explain_reverts. Debresser (talk) 22:10, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

@Debresser: Oops! My mistake. I reverted back. Thanks for letting me know and apologies. Sundayclose (talk) 00:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you. Debresser (talk) 13:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

My citation was reasonable.

Hi, you repealed my edit because my citation wasn't trustworthy enough. I would like to request permission to re-submit my entry on the page "List of backmasked messages", with this faulty citation removed. I was unable to find another source that talked about this specific back-masking, so there isn't any more trustworthy citation to use. Clearly, the website wasn't lying about this backmasked message, as anybody could open the song "Hidden In The Sand" in an audio editor right now and clearly hear the words "Wouldn't the world be better off if we took nonsense more seriously?" Please revert your edit, let me put it back up with the citation removed, or tell me why I'm wrong.

--166.181.253.59 (talk) 04:27, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Misrepresentation of sources

you reverted edits on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_County_High_School_shooting and your reason was "Misrepresentation of sources" could you tell me what that means?--Freewayman 2000 (talk) 00:59, 9 July 2020 (UTC)