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I agree with everything written here, which is why I think this man deserves more serious description.<br> |
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The writing overall shows admiration for him, but that can interfere with NPOV. Some of the gushing praise is followed by references, but is still opinion. A few examples: |
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“Slydini would go on to appear on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and other popular broadcast venues of his time, but this was not his forte.” |
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“His subtle magical gestures made it clear that he knew something not known, and probably unknowable, to his audience. Audiences saw an elfin quality in him that was unlikely to be duplicated.” |
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“His almost casual manner of performing made the magical effects he offered those of true magic.” |
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Again, I don't disagree with any of these things, but they do not read like an encyclopedia article. |
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--[[User:Badmuthahubbard|Badmuthahubbard]] ([[User talk:Badmuthahubbard|talk]]) 22:19, 13 August 2020 (UTC) |
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==Minor Page Edits Needed== |
==Minor Page Edits Needed== |
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POV tag added
I agree with everything written here, which is why I think this man deserves more serious description.
The writing overall shows admiration for him, but that can interfere with NPOV. Some of the gushing praise is followed by references, but is still opinion. A few examples:
“Slydini would go on to appear on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and other popular broadcast venues of his time, but this was not his forte.”
“His subtle magical gestures made it clear that he knew something not known, and probably unknowable, to his audience. Audiences saw an elfin quality in him that was unlikely to be duplicated.”
“His almost casual manner of performing made the magical effects he offered those of true magic.”
Again, I don't disagree with any of these things, but they do not read like an encyclopedia article. --Badmuthahubbard (talk) 22:19, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Minor Page Edits Needed
Hi, everybody. I wonder how long it will take for my message here to receive a reply. I have a habit of ending up on and editing pages of minor celebrities of history (perhaps that is a good habit, since these are, in my opinion, more often than not in dire need of repair), and, with all due respect to the great Slydini (whom, I admit, I had never heard of before today), he may fall into this category, so I don't know how many Wiki-users frequent this page...!
Anyhow, down to business. First, there was a red image tag at the bottom, which simply read File:Slydini.jpg. I have removed it, as the image was missing. If anyone knows what this was, please add it back in - the more pictures the better, within reason, in an article of this caliber.
Next, I noticed this sentence: "In 1945, in New Orleans Slydini showed his own special brand of magic." First, this is vague. Although there were some little bits of information following this statement, we are not told what exactly Slydini's style WAS. Also, the wording is a bit confused - did he just perform in that style for the night, all of 1945, or the rest of his career? It does not sound like the latter, but I believe that is what was intended. Perhaps we should instead say "In New Orleans in 1945, Slydini introduced the style of magic that he would perform for the rest of his career. I'm not going to make the change; as I admitted before, I wouldn't know Slydini from a bowling pin, so somebody with some more knowledge, please do.
Finally, where the heck is the vast majority of his life? Is there no information about the 50 YEARS between the statement about 1945 and his death? That seems unlikely to me. I think I will do some studying into his career and see what I can find to add, but, regardless, this article needs some serious beefin'!
Thanks for reading my book here. I didn't intend for this to be so long, but hey, I tried to be concise. Thanks + Cheers - "Yes...It's Raining" 02:07, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- And - thanks for all of the comments regarding the article - I agree with them all and then some. This is the first time I've seen the article and it is indeed skimpy. Too bad given that Slydini was truly one of "Magic's" grand masters, authoring a number of best sellers (now collector's editions) within the Magic Fraternity. His name came up some time back when I was authoring a biographical article on someone who knew him well. It will take some time but I will re-contact him and locate some information on his life and career. When I do, I'll work on this piece.
- One of the remarkable things about Wikipedia is that it catches those who were great during their lifetime but like all who pass away, are quickly forgotten afterwards. Slydini is indeed one of those people. Thanks again for bringing this to our attention! Sinclairindex (talk) 15:26, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
- It's done. Thanks again for the note. Given that this magician is credited with changing an entire field of prestidigitation and is continually being honored today, you were correct in your assumptions. I hope that this does the job. I am sure that others will be able to do even better going forward.
Year of death
Dick Cavett's blog entry "Conjuring Slydini (Part 2)" at nytimes.com says he died in 1999, the article says 1991. --Smithfarm (talk) 13:54, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
- This should be corrected now. His record of death coincided with the International Brotherhood of Magician's obituary so it's reflected in the article. Slydini was coming up on 90 years of age when he died and has sometimes been reported as being 90 so I suspect that is where the confusion came from.
year of birth
I just came across a page of the MagicPedia where it says he was born on September 1st 1901. In the wiki article its 1900, so wich one is true? Here is the link: http://geniimagazine.com/magicpedia/Slydini 93.208.72.191 (talk) 18:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC) IP
- It is September 1, 1901. When I was researching this I did find several magazine references that placed his birth in 1900 however, the larger "magic" publications and his newspaper obituary placed his birth in September of 1901. This was also backed up by the larger publications in the magic field (The Linking Ring, MUM, Genii), etc.
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