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:::{{ping|Eggishorn}} WP:NMEDIA states Notability is presumed for newspapers, (1) if have served some sort of historic purpose or have a significant history, (2) are significant publications in ethnic and other non-trivial niche markets, (3) are considered by reliable sources to be authoritative in their subject area. This newspaper meets all these criteria easily. I still feel the nominator of this AfD is on deletion spree. The reason if he himself has been creating BLPs on non-notable figures ([[Misbah Mumtaz]], [[Bin Swelah]]) yet marking BLPs on notable subjects ([[Iffat Rahim]]) for deletion. Doesn't sounds strange to you? --[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] ([[User talk:Saqib|talk]]) 08:29, 19 August 2020 (UTC) |
:::{{ping|Eggishorn}} WP:NMEDIA states Notability is presumed for newspapers, (1) if have served some sort of historic purpose or have a significant history, (2) are significant publications in ethnic and other non-trivial niche markets, (3) are considered by reliable sources to be authoritative in their subject area. This newspaper meets all these criteria easily. I still feel the nominator of this AfD is on deletion spree. The reason if he himself has been creating BLPs on non-notable figures ([[Misbah Mumtaz]], [[Bin Swelah]]) yet marking BLPs on notable subjects ([[Iffat Rahim]]) for deletion. Doesn't sounds strange to you? --[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] ([[User talk:Saqib|talk]]) 08:29, 19 August 2020 (UTC) |
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::::{{reply to|Saqib}}, please provide any evidence that you are aware of that justifies this paper meeting those criteria. At the present time, neither the article itself nor this AfD discussion have produced any evidence of meeting those criteria. Simple assertions of passing NMEDIA are not enough. Also, I will put this more clearly: stating that another editor is on a "deletion spree" despite having been pointed out that a very, very low number of deletion nominations have been made is grounds for blocking under [[WP:NPA]] and [[WP:ASPERSIONS]]. Please do not do this again or continue to attempt justifying this statement. [[User:Eggishorn|Eggishorn]] [[User talk:Eggishorn|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Eggishorn|(contrib)]] 08:35, 19 August 2020 (UTC) |
::::{{reply to|Saqib}}, please provide any evidence that you are aware of that justifies this paper meeting those criteria. At the present time, neither the article itself nor this AfD discussion have produced any evidence of meeting those criteria. Simple assertions of passing NMEDIA are not enough. Also, I will put this more clearly: stating that another editor is on a "deletion spree" despite having been pointed out that a very, very low number of deletion nominations have been made is grounds for blocking under [[WP:NPA]] and [[WP:ASPERSIONS]]. Please do not do this again or continue to attempt justifying this statement. [[User:Eggishorn|Eggishorn]] [[User talk:Eggishorn|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Eggishorn|(contrib)]] 08:35, 19 August 2020 (UTC) |
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::::{{reply to|Saqib}} Hey dude stop lying first of all this article was nominated for deletion on 18 July 2020 last month and i put the AFD on Iffat Omar last night so how come i m on mass deletion spree? the articles which i created is on 9 August and it has nothing to do with this page. Anyways i have involved administrators and speaking with higher authorities to look into this matter, as you are making personal attacks since few months to me and others. if you don't like any person and celebrities kindly stay off. you have put deletion on my two pages in revenge that why i put the deletion tag on Wahdat. [[Nick Wrenn]] was a VP of CNN and passing notability in all form but you did it in revenge. [[User:Memon KutianaWala|Memon KutianaWala]] ([[User talk:Memon KutianaWala|talk]]) 09:25, 19 August 2020 (UTC) |
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Newspaper Wahdat is not notable, no media links found, no references in Google News hence it is not passing WP:GNG. Memon KutianaWala (talk) 12:51, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions.Memon KutianaWala (talk) 12:45, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions.Memon KutianaWala (talk) 12:45, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Comment This discussion page was created without the {{afd2}} template and never transcluded to a daily log. Fixed now--I have no opinion of my own on the nomination. @Memon KutianaWala: For future nominations, please fully follow the instructions at WP:AFDHOWTO. Thanks. --Finngall talk 16:28, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2020 August 14. —cyberbot ITalk to my owner:Online 16:31, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of News media-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:36, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete The entirety of the page is unreferenced and the vast majority of the text was added by an obvious COI editor. the last version prior to the COI edit shows an unreferenced stub and there is no evidence in the article or in searches of significant and independent coverage. The only independent coverage I have located, in fact, is passing mentions to the participation of this paper in the All Pakistan Newspapers Society. So there is independent verification that WP:ITEXISTS but that is not enough to signify notability. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:38, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep @Eggishorn: nominator of this AfD is apparently on reckless deletion spree. This is a notable newspaper and pass WP:NMEDIA. "The “Daily Wahdat” from Peshawar are full-fledged Pashto newspapers which have been serving the Pashto language for a long time.". There's more in G'books. --Saqib (talk) 23:15, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Saqib:, that reference, like the ones I already mentioned and others that are available in GBooks and GNews, is only a passing reference to establish existence. Notability requires more than simple one-sentence summaries. Thank you for the ping. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC) edited to add: And, just for the record, I don't consider fifteen nominations in 11 months a "reckless deletion spree". I suggest that a review of WP:NPA might be in order. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:53, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Eggishorn: WP:NMEDIA states Notability is presumed for newspapers, (1) if have served some sort of historic purpose or have a significant history, (2) are significant publications in ethnic and other non-trivial niche markets, (3) are considered by reliable sources to be authoritative in their subject area. This newspaper meets all these criteria easily. I still feel the nominator of this AfD is on deletion spree. The reason if he himself has been creating BLPs on non-notable figures (Misbah Mumtaz, Bin Swelah) yet marking BLPs on notable subjects (Iffat Rahim) for deletion. Doesn't sounds strange to you? --Saqib (talk) 08:29, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Saqib:, please provide any evidence that you are aware of that justifies this paper meeting those criteria. At the present time, neither the article itself nor this AfD discussion have produced any evidence of meeting those criteria. Simple assertions of passing NMEDIA are not enough. Also, I will put this more clearly: stating that another editor is on a "deletion spree" despite having been pointed out that a very, very low number of deletion nominations have been made is grounds for blocking under WP:NPA and WP:ASPERSIONS. Please do not do this again or continue to attempt justifying this statement. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 08:35, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Eggishorn: WP:NMEDIA states Notability is presumed for newspapers, (1) if have served some sort of historic purpose or have a significant history, (2) are significant publications in ethnic and other non-trivial niche markets, (3) are considered by reliable sources to be authoritative in their subject area. This newspaper meets all these criteria easily. I still feel the nominator of this AfD is on deletion spree. The reason if he himself has been creating BLPs on non-notable figures (Misbah Mumtaz, Bin Swelah) yet marking BLPs on notable subjects (Iffat Rahim) for deletion. Doesn't sounds strange to you? --Saqib (talk) 08:29, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Saqib:, that reference, like the ones I already mentioned and others that are available in GBooks and GNews, is only a passing reference to establish existence. Notability requires more than simple one-sentence summaries. Thank you for the ping. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC) edited to add: And, just for the record, I don't consider fifteen nominations in 11 months a "reckless deletion spree". I suggest that a review of WP:NPA might be in order. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:53, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Saqib: Hey dude stop lying first of all this article was nominated for deletion on 18 July 2020 last month and i put the AFD on Iffat Omar last night so how come i m on mass deletion spree? the articles which i created is on 9 August and it has nothing to do with this page. Anyways i have involved administrators and speaking with higher authorities to look into this matter, as you are making personal attacks since few months to me and others. if you don't like any person and celebrities kindly stay off. you have put deletion on my two pages in revenge that why i put the deletion tag on Wahdat. Nick Wrenn was a VP of CNN and passing notability in all form but you did it in revenge. Memon KutianaWala (talk) 09:25, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Comment A person Saqib is making personal attacks on me and one more editor since very long. I am not tagging the pages for deletion which you are calling mass deletion spree, it's you who are adding multiple articles for deletion since long. I am going to raise this issue with others to Wikipedia higher authorities. The pages of mine which are accepted by administrators are now being deleted by you in a revenge and this is not it, you are deleting the pages of public figures because you don't like them. many users have sent a complaints to administrator that you are making personal attacks on them. I request administrators to look into this matter as Mr. Saqib is deleting my pages in revenge that why the hell i have put AFD on wahdat and two other models.
Nick Wrenn and Misbah Mumtaz, Bin Swelah and many of my other notable pages were deleted or nominated for deletion by them since 2019 even tho they were notable and had been mentioned in Guardian, BBC, CNN and others. A page of mine Ayesha Chundrigar was also nominated for speedy deletion but i rescued that page somehow and if i tries to speak something he and others have sent me message via Talk page to stop it else you will be ban. Please let me know how to file a formal complaint to Wikipedia Administrators.
Tagging administrators to look into this matter WP:INVOLVED @ Hut_8.5 and Ritchie333 Kindly check the email logs of mine. Memon KutianaWala (talk) 09:12, 19 August 2020 (UTC)