Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Presidency of Joe Biden (2nd nomination): Difference between revisions

Browse history interactively

← Previous edit Next edit →

Content deleted Content added

VisualWikitext

Inline

Revision as of 11:36, 15 November 2020

Presidency of Joe Biden

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

There is no presidency yet and for all we know it might never transpire. What does exist is the presidential transition of Joe Biden. Everything that is in this article now and everything that could possibly be in it before the inauguration belongs in the article Presidential transition of Joe Biden. The article is therefore both premature and redundant. Surtsicna (talk) 23:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna (talk) 23:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna (talk) 23:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed this was speedy kept six days ago. I don't believe it should have been speedy kept because the article is entirely redundant. A discussion is warranted. Surtsicna (talk) 23:57, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep This article was nominated for deletion and speedy kept last week. Repeated nominations are disruptive and unproductive. KidAd talk 00:09, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep and take the nominator to WP:AE/warn for WP:ARBAP2. Tendentious nomination. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 00:21, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. The nominator should withdrawn their nomination and close this discussion. KidAd talk 00:23, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I don't think the original discussion qualified for Wikipedia:Speedy keep under the criteria on that page though --DannyS712 (talk) 00:42, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
WP:DRAFTIFY The nominator is correct in stating that this is, at present, redundant to Presidential transition of Joe Biden. The nominator is also correct in stating that the previous discussion should not have been closed as WP:SPEEDYKEEP (especially not as a WP:NAC). I will note that the proper course of action for that would have been to take it to WP:DELREV, however. At any rate, WP:DELREASON#5 (Content forks (unless a merger or redirect is appropriate) – this is a WP:REDUNDANTFORK), WP:DELREASON#6 (Articles that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, including neologisms, original theories and conclusions, and articles that are themselves hoaxes (but not articles describing notable hoaxes) – it is impossible to attribute something that has not yet happened to WP:Reliable sources), and WP:DELREASON#14 (Any other content not suitable for an encyclopedia – specifically WP:NOTFUTURE) all apply. On the other hand, barring unforeseen events, we'll want to have an article with this title in the future, hence WP:DRAFTIFYing is a perfectly cromulent WP:Alternative to deletion. I suppose it would be possible to have a procedural close for this discussion and take the previous one to WP:DELREV, but that seems overly bureaucratic to me. TompaDompa (talk) 00:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This article was nominated for deletion and speedy kept last week. // Timothy :: talk 04:11, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Both the articles on the previous two presidencies were created moths before the start of those respective presidencies, without being deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.176.94.161 (talk) 11:00, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect or draft until inauguration. Ҥ (talk) 11:16, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify until inauguration. WP:TOOSOON (Alternatively, redirect to presidential transition of Joe Biden until inauguration — Ad Meliora ^Talk∕_Contribs 11:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 19: / Line 19: @@
 *'''Keep''' Both the articles on the previous two presidencies were created moths before the start of those respective presidencies, without being deleted.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/143.176.94.161|143.176.94.161]] ([[User talk:143.176.94.161#top|talk]]) 11:00, 15 November 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 *'''Redirect''' or draft until inauguration. [[User:Ҥ|Ҥ]] ([[User talk:Ҥ|talk]]) 11:16, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
-*'''Draftify''' until inauguration. [[WP:TOOSOON]] — '''[[User:Ad Meliora|Ad Meliora]]''' [[User talk:Ad Meliora|<sup>Talk</sup>]]∕[[Special:Contributions/Ad Meliora|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 11:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
+*'''Draftify''' until inauguration. [[WP:TOOSOON]] (Alternatively, redirect to [[presidential transition of Joe Biden]] until inauguration  — '''[[User:Ad Meliora|Ad Meliora]]''' [[User talk:Ad Meliora|<sup>Talk</sup>]]∕[[Special:Contributions/Ad Meliora|<sub>Contribs</sub>]] 11:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)