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== Digital Twin ==

Hy MrOllie, could you explain (by scientific arguments and/or literature or ...), why you deleted the text ?

Revision as of 13:45, 6 January 2021

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Deleting SPEED II?

Really? You couldn't even give me a few minutes to clean it up without slapping your delete tag on it. What is it with you deletionists? Did you even read the article and the link to the history of the software? I know of at least one bank that used this language to develop products. --Brian Fenton (talk) 14:12, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you need a few minutes, create it in draft space or in your userspace and move it when you're done. - MrOllie (talk) 14:14, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
People like you have been ruining Wikipedia for years - every time I come back and consider doing an edit or a small change, I remember why I left. The only reason I even added this article was in response to this message from years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_programming_languages#Is_Speed_II_esoteric%3F Delete it if you want - I couldn't care less. Deletionists have ruined Wikipedia. --Brian Fenton (talk) 14:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I tend to think it is the people who make personal attacks at the drop of the hat that ruin Wikipedia, but I suppose perceptions differ. - MrOllie (talk) 14:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wrong - you started the hostilities with your Delete tag. Do you ever even stop for a second to imagine how that feels to someone who is an occasional editor making a good faith addition? It's so aggressive and deserves a harsh retort. Thanks for reminding me why I don't bother here any more. I forget and people like you are do to give me a sharp reminder. --Brian Fenton (talk) 14:27, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Added adaptation Death in Venice

You seem to have missed the following on my talk page. I would be grateful if you would reply to it here.

"I regret that I do not understand your comment and view your removal of pertinent facts as at best misguided and at worst offensive. It is not self-promotion to give the title and ISBN of a book published by a reputable company (referred to in itself by Wikipedia). Nor is it self-promotion to state, with evidence of outsider reviewers, that theatre productions took place. In that light, your removal of objectively verifiable information that adds to the topics concerned (Volpone / Hadrian VII and Death in Venice) can only be seen as censorship that deprives the public of information that might be of interest to them. I invite you to reinstate the information or I will have to appeal against your deletions. Your reinstatement - verifying independently the facts that were in the original edits - should meet even the strictest standards of impartiality. In the hope that you can reconsider and resolve this mistake, I wish you a happy new year."

Since writing that piece two points have occurred to me. (a) there is a difference between existence and promotion. "John Smith exists" is different from "John Smith is a wonderful guy". (b) if you are saying that John Smith cannot state "I exist" on Wikipedia and that no-one known to him is allowed to state that fact, the conclusion must be that Wikipedia - or at least the portion of it that you monitor - is less interested in what is posted than who posts it. I would be disappointed to have to draw this conclusion.

I look forward to hearing from you either on this thread or my own

Idiomist (talk) 17:31, 4 January 2021 (UTC)idiomistIdiomist (talk) 17:31, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. The mere fact that something exists is not sufficient reason to list it. The main reason Wikipedia has guidelines on conflict of interest (I trust you have read these by now, they have been linked on your talk page for some time) is that conflicted editors often have difficulty judging the proper amount of coverage to give their own work - and in some cases (many cases, actually) that amount is 'none'. - MrOllie (talk) 17:32, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Shmuley Boteach

You keep removing the edits I am making which I am moving false information and adding factual information. When I add a portion about an organization (with nothing but a reference, you claim it is in violation of Wikipedia's an advertising and promotion policy, but it is just part of the work that Shmuley is doing now. Please let me know how to add information that is true without being in violation of the advertising and promotion policy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel234Ok (talkcontribs) 18:58, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are adding promotional content and removing well sourced criticism, which is a blatant violation of WP:NPOV, and of WP:COI. If you keep this up I fully expect that your account will be blocked. - MrOllie (talk) 19:12, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How do I add the content without it being "Promotional"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel234Ok (talkcontribs) 19:32, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As an editor with an admitted COI, you should be discussing this on the associated talk page with other editors to request edits. I have left a template message about editing with a COI on your user talk page, you should find the answers you need in the links embedded in that message. - MrOllie (talk) 19:39, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reference removed on the recommender system page

Dear MrOllie,

First of all, I want to thank you for the time, energy, and resources allocated to keep Wikipedia at a high level of content quality. I saw that you have a meticulous activity and I congratulate you on this. Not many people devote their time to making Wikipedia a better place.

However, according to the research and reporting systems we use, we saw that you deleted a piece of content that referred to a recently published article. The content was taken from a peer-reviewed article published in the prestigious journal Decision Support Systems, where top researchers from the world publish their research. Therefore, we do not understand why that piece of content was deleted. From what I saw, it fit perfectly with the location where it was inserted, being a natural addition, which brought an added value regarding the privacy of recommender systems.

We believe that addition would be in the direct interest of Wikipedia, because all research tools (from prestigious sites with very high authority and high PR) will track back to the reference, and at the same time will put direct links to the Wikipedia page you manage very carefully. Please see an example below:

https://plu.mx/plum/a/wikipedia?doi=10.1016/j.dss.2020.113420&theme=plum-sciencedirect-theme&hideUsage=true

As a result of the above, I cordially ask you to re-add the reference (see below) in the place where it was placed.

With much appreciation and thanks, Daniel

DrDanielM (talk) 14:18, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Revision as of 14:55, 3 January 2021 (edit) (undo) (thank) MrOllie (talk | contribs) (clean up some SYN problems, and an instance of apparent refspam)

Moreover, the results from the empirical study of Mican et al. indicate that recommendations perceived usefulness positively and significantly influences the extent to which users consent to the recommender system's provider collecting, storing, and using their data. As a result, a new prediction model for users' attitudes toward data privacy in recommender systems was proposed.<ref>{{Cite journal|last1=Mican|first1=Daniel|last2=Sitar-Tăut|first2=Dan-Andrei|last3=Moisescu|first3=Ovidiu-Ioan|date=2020-12-01|title=Perceived usefulness: A silver bullet to assure user data availability for online recommendation systems|url=http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167923620301755|journal=Decision Support Systems|language=en|volume=139|pages=113420|doi=10.1016/j.dss.2020.113420|issn=0167-9236}}</ref>


Can you explain what these 'research and reporting systems' are? Are you the Daniel Mican who is an author of this reference? - MrOllie (talk) 14:20, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Dear MrOllie,

Elsevier is the biggest publisher of scientific papers in the world. It provides researchers who publish their research with a number of tools/reporting systems, including some that allow them to track the impact of their research online. An example of such a publically accessible tool is the one I left in the previous post and which can be accessed at the custom link below:

https://plu.mx/plum/a/wikipedia?doi=10.1016/j.dss.2020.113420&theme=plum-sciencedirect-theme&hideUsage=true

As you can see, that tool mentions the citation in the Wikipedia article (with a do-follow backlink, which helps Wikipedia a lot concerning the SEO purpose). It is just that it seems to have been deleted in the meantime (hopefully by mistake).

Yes, I am Daniel Mican, the author of the article and I am writing both on my behalf and on behalf of the other co-authors of the article. I am also writing to you on behalf of Babeș Bolyai University, from Cluj-Napoca. Therefore, if an official document from the university is needed for this purpose, it can be provided. I must mention that we do not have any financial interest in this case, only the desire to make the results obtained by the current research known to the public free of charge.

With much appreciation and respect for your work, Daniel

DrDanielM (talk) 15:03, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link to the tool. The reference was removed deliberately. Did you or one of your coauthors and/or associates add the reference to the Wikipedia article? - MrOllie (talk) 15:29, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To my knowledge, no. We only saw the appearance of the paragraph in our reporting tools with delight, and now we have seen its disappearance. Therefore, I decided to write to you, with the idea that maybe this would give credibility so that the paragraph could remain on the page. DrDanielM (talk) 15:41, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Digital Twin

Hy MrOllie, could you explain (by scientific arguments and/or literature or ...), why you deleted the text ?