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Outdated references

The article cites the 8th Edition of GLAAD's Media Reference Guide from 2011 linkarchive.

The current version is the 10th edition, published in 2016 linkarchive.

Shouldn't the article use the current version? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.110.66.16 (talk) 02:27, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the old GLAAD source. A replacement would not work because the old GLAAD source was used for the binary definition of bisexuality while the new GLAAD source is broader in scope. And, clearly, there is a binary and non-binary definition of bisexuality. This talk page has been over that a number of times, and it's why the article covers both aspects. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 01:10, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Since the new GLAAD source gives the non-binary definition, why not use it as a citation for that? 2602:306:36E4:2100:BD52:D387:3E02:D74B (talk) 04:23, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


The page about reliable sources states that age matters. The current citation from the American Psychological Association is from 2011 and is about sexual orientation in general. However, user:Qwinlynk below showed the the APA published a page specifically about bisexuality in November 2017. It seems clear that the current citation has been superseded and this page reflects the APA's current understanding of bisexuality. This article should cite the latter and not the former. 2600:1700:6E70:64C0:A187:482F:64B3:C35A (talk) 16:02, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, I see that the article currently cites both. I still request the old citation be removed as the new one supersedes it. 2600:1700:6E70:64C0:A187:482F:64B3:C35A (talk) 16:44, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As was stated, both definitions exist. That same page actually still exists on their site, it just had moved. It's all updated now. Crossroads -talk- 17:32, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2020

Change "Bisexuality is romantic attraction, sexual attraction, or sexual behavior toward both males and females, or to more than one sex or gender. It may also be defined as romantic or sexual attraction to people of any sex or gender identity, which is also known as pansexuality." to "Bisexuality is the emotional attraction, romantic attraction and/or, sexual attraction to more than one gender identity. [1]"

Change "Some sources state that bisexuality encompasses romantic or sexual attraction to all gender identities or that it is romantic or sexual attraction to a person irrespective of that person's biological sex or gender, equating it to or rendering it interchangeable with pansexuality. The concept of pansexuality deliberately rejects the gender binary, the 'notion of two genders and indeed of specific sexual orientations', as pansexual people are open to relationships with people who do not identify as strictly men or women. Sometimes the phrase 'bisexual umbrella' is used to describe any nonmonosexual behaviors, attractions, and identities, usually for purposes of collective action and challenging monosexist cultural assumptions." to "Sources state that bisexuality encompasses romantic or sexual attraction to all gender identities or that it is romantic or sexual attraction to a person irrespective of that person's biological sex or gender. In 1987, bisexual and feminist writer Lani Ka'ahumanu stated, "I am bisexual because I am drawn to people regardless of gender." [2] Ka'ahumanu's statement has been supported by other bisexuals throughout later years. [3] [4]

Change "The bisexual community (also known as the bisexual/pansexual, bi/pan/fluid, or non-monosexual community) includes members of the LGBT community who identify as bisexual, pansexual or fluid." to "The bisexual community includes members of the LGBT community who identify as bisexual, pansexual or fluid."

Remove "In the BBC TV science fiction show Torchwood, several of the main characters appear to have fluid sexuality. Most prominent among these is Captain Jack Harkness, a pansexual who is the lead character and an otherwise conventional science fiction action hero. Within the logic of the show, where characters can also interact with alien species, producers sometimes use the term "omnisexual" to describe him. Jack's ex, Captain John Hart is also bisexual. Of his female exes, significantly at least one ex-wife and at least one woman with whom he has had a child have been indicated. Some critics draw the conclusion that the series more often shows Jack with men than women. Creator Russell T Davies says one of pitfalls of writing a bisexual character is you "fall into the trap" of "only having them sleep with men." He describes of the show's fourth series, "You'll see the full range of his appetites, in a really properly done way." The preoccupation with bisexuality has been seen by critics as complementary to other aspects of the show's themes. For heterosexual character Gwen Cooper, for whom Jack harbors romantic feelings, the new experiences she confronts at Torchwood, in the form of "affairs and homosexuality and the threat of death", connote not only the Other but a "missing side" to the Self. Under the influence of an alien pheromone, Gwen kisses a woman in Episode 2 of the series. In Episode 1, heterosexual Owen Harper kisses a man to escape a fight when he is about to take the man's girlfriend. Quiet Toshiko Sato is in love with Owen, but has also had brief romantic relationships with a female alien and a male human." Qwinlynk (talk) 10:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: I'm declining this request because it's not clear why you want to do this. Could you provide a reason for this change, and preferably with reliable sources? (Eg: blogs usually aren't seen as reliable sources). If you need help finding sources, please visit the reference desk. @Qwinlynk. Seagull123 Φ 16:18, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, there are a lot of changes packed into this edit request, and most of it is regarding sourced material. We follow WP:Due weight regarding definitions. The Torchwood stuff could be trimmed down however, IMO. Crossroads -talk- 16:31, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/bisexual#
  2. ^ https://www.lanikaahumanu.com/OUT%20OUTRAGED.pdf
  3. ^ https://binetusa.blogspot.com/2014/01/1990-bi-manifesto.html
  4. ^ https://www.worldcat.org/title/closer-to-home-bisexuality-feminism/oclc/25131114

Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2020

change "It may also be defined as romantic or sexual attraction to people of any sex or gender identity, which is also known as pansexuality.[5][6][7]" to "There are many terms that come under bisexual which are often grouped under the 'bisexual umbrella', such as pansexuality (no gender preference); omnisexual (attraction to every gender with preferences) etc." as often people who like any sex or gender aren't pansexual but come under a different related term. ThaliaHolmesMtF (talk) 14:12, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Seagull123 Φ 16:26, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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