Template:Did you know nominations/The Quickening Maze
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 20:10, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
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The Quickening Maze
[edit]... that despite popular speculation on whether poets John Clare and Tennyson had met in real life, they never meet in Adam Foulds' novel The Quickening Maze?
- Reviewed: Louisiana Hot Sauce
Moved to mainspace by Dharmadhyaksha (talk). Self-nominated at 11:22, 14 June 2016 (UTC).
- "Did you know that (event) DOES NOT HAPPEN in this novel?" This is an awful formulation, sorry. DS (talk) 20:56, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- @DragonflySixtyseven: Not sure what you exactly mean? Are you saying we rephrase the hook or change it completely to something else? If former, please suggest. If later, I see no reason why it should not be the hook. The meeting of the two great poets has been speculated since long throughout the history and we know nothing for sure if they met or not. Almost all reviews of the book also mention this.[1],[2], [3], [4]. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:39, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
New reviewer needed. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 17:08, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
No, I'm sorry, what's needed here is a new hook. I've struck the original one; the reviewer was correct. I'd suggest you find a completely different hook, because "there's been speculation about whether it happened in real life, but it didn't happen in this particular work of historical fiction" is not an interesting hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:54, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Adam Foulds' novel The Quickening Maze, about poets Clare and Tennyson, was nominated for the Man Booker and Walter Scott prizes but lost both to Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall?
- Am not sure how the book was marketed. But a novel about these two would surely have they meeting or not as it's selling point and hence I considered it hookey. Anyways... here we are with another one. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:07, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Full review needed now that a new hook has been proposed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:30, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Nearly there. Article is new enough, long enough, and neutrally written. It has no copyvios that I can find. It has been cited inline, and ALT1 is both interesting and supported by the sources. However, one of the facts in the hook is actually not in the article. Dharmadhyaksha, can you add a sentence saying that Wolf Hall actually won the man booker? Then I can pass this. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 06:11, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93: Have added that bit now. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:45, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
