User talk:EdJohnston

Grsecurity

Hi @EdJohnston: Have you read my message on the talk page of Grsecurity which you deleted? I recreated the page with multiple independent reliable secondary sources that have significant coverage of the subject. The page meets WP:GNG, these sources were missed by all the people that participated in the deletion discussion. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:25, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

See my reply on your talk page. It's time for WP:DRV. EdJohnston (talk) 14:29, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer. PhotographyEdits (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Oradour-sur-Glane massacre

• Oradour-sur-Glane massacre (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Sergow (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 213.39.115.59 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Can I make this edit [1]? The editor who objected to it has been indeffed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:15, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Go ahead. I have semiprotected the page in case the recent IP editor is evading a block. EdJohnston (talk) 00:34, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:34, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

At no point did anybody object to any edit resembling that. Somebody fixed some embarrassing grammar errors, and you aggressively and frantically objected. Are you deliberately misrepresenting the situation, or are you simply hallucinating things that didn't happen, as you have previously claimed to do? 213.39.115.59 (talk) 13:35, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Please see the above IP editor's comment on User talk:Osomite, which can be found here. It appears to me to be a violation of WP:NPA. If so, can it please be rev-del'd? Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:21, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

It also seems probable that the IP editor is User:Sergow violating their indef block. I no longer remember the specifics of Sergow's NPA-violating post on their user page, but the use of "pathetic toddler" in an edit summary still remains, and is consonant with "infantile behaviour:, "angry child", "child precocious enough to speak somewhat like an adult" and "tantrum" used in the above cited comment. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:24, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

You are referring to this edit by 213.39.115.59 (talk · contribs), which does raise concerns since it charges you with 'infantile behavior'. EdJohnston (talk) 01:11, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

User:Sergow is probably WP:BKFIP. But Sergow is already indef blocked and Oradour-sur-Glane is semiprotected, which should keep things under control for the moment. I removed the personal attack at User talk:Osomite. EdJohnston (talk) 03:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 16:56, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Macedonian issue

• Okrados (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Jingiby (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Todor Panitsa (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Yane Sandanski (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Ed, as you already have been informed, a few days ago an user called Okrados was activated. He was nearly latent for years and had almost no edits, except for a few attempts to push through Macedonian nationalist ideas, but these unsupported by reliable sources. A few days ago, however, this user launched a large-scale campaign on a series of articles related to the Macedonian issue and the Macedonian-Bulgarian dispute, aimed at changing the identity of a number of people from Macedonian Bulgarian or simply Bulgarian to ethnic Macedonian. This is done without presenting credible sources or discussing the talk page of the article. It is clear that this editor has no purpose other than the described change of identities. A lot of neutral sources have been added to most of the articles in question, contradicting to his Macedonist thesis. The discussions there are also quite long, but there is no one to pay attention to them. Particularly characteristic was this edit, which removed several credible sources and changed the official name of a political party from Bulgarian section to Macedonian section. This is provided that there is no source to support such a nonsensical thesis. The last striking case today is with Todor Panitsa. The man was born in the town of Oryahovo on the banks of the Danube and his relatives had no kinship with Macedonia. His identity was also changed to Macedonian. I think he is WP:NOTHERE and WP:SPA. Please help to resolve this issue. Jingiby (talk) 08:22, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jingiby, Okrados here! Now while I understand that you care for Bulgaria as you're probably an ethnic Bulgarian, you shouldn't be trying to push dogmatic ideas and agendas into Wikipedia articles. I'm not a Macedonist nor have I ever referred to myself in that term. I have been actively using Wikipedia for years, I only logged in when I edited something. I have begun editing more now because frankly, I don't care to see my people marginalized as I'm sure you don't either, though to be fair, I have other interests and perform other edits such as vastly touching up the Roki Vulovic draft page. I had people in my family lay down the price in blood for freedom of my peoples and it's a disgrace to them to see fellow Macedonians be described as Bulgarians because they didn't vividly use the label of Macedonian, or only used it in a regional term. There is a Bulgarian hegemony on Macedonian English Wikipedia pages and I started editing to dissolve that hegemony. My question to you is, where is the evidence that they didn't use Bulgarian as a regional term? I acknowledge that Bulgaria and Macedonia have had a shared history, however to say that Tito or the Yugoslav Partisans created the Macedonian ethnicity out of some Bulgarian villages and towns is incredibly racist, hurtful and shockingly similar to how many Africans were treated by Europeans by calling them "uncivilized", "primitive" or "lacking of history/culture/etc." Now some Bulgarians, maybe possibly you, think that Macedonia is trying to steal Bulgarian history or that it's the "evil Serbians' fault for breaking up the Bulgarian peoples" etc. etc, however that is blatantly untrue as these people were ethnic Macedonians. They intermixed with Bulgarians but they are as Macedonian as the modern people of North Macedonia. I'm sure that if a Macedonian of the present were sent back in time to that era, you would call him a Bulgarian. Macedonians have had an ethnic consciousness since the 1860s, if not even further ago. Just because Bulgarians are similar to Macedonians and out populate them, does not mean they have the right to control the narrative and spin lies about many Macedonians' ancestors. Now, I already apologize for the Jane Sandanski edit which removed sources, it was an accident and a mistake. I personally have seen many sources that come from some Bulgarian nationalist website, that have a clear CoI or that are just blatantly biased and being presented as fact. As for the question of Todor Panitsa, he had fought for an independent Macedonia and advocated against the label of Bulgarian that I can affirm with a link is that unfortunately broken after all these years. Personally, a lot of this reminds me of the Germanisation policies in the 1800s conducted towards the Poles. The Polish were outnumbered in many areas of Germany by ethnic Germans and history, their culture as well as the overall narrative were rewritten in order to assimilate the Poles and reduce their ethnic consciousness. I advise you try to look at Macedonia and Bulgaria's shared history without a dogmatic, chauvinistic and ultranationalist lense as the last time those ideas were used in Bulgaria, the Red Army had occupied it and Bulgaria became a Soviet vassal for a good 50 years. Anyways, I do not have anything personal against you or any Bulgarians, Macedonians and Bulgarians are both fellow South Slavs just as much as Serbs and Macedonians are. Here's to resolving our differences in a good manner and I hope you have a great day! Okrados (talk) 14:26, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

I have warned User:Okrados to wait for consensus before changing the nationality of people or places from Bulgarian to Macedonian, per the closure of an AN3 complaint. EdJohnston (talk) 17:22, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

2001 insurgency in Macedonia

• 2001 insurgency in Macedonia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• ButtersIO (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Hey, Ed. Hope you're well. ButtersIO (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has been trying to place al-Qaeda as a supporter of Albanian insurgents in the 2001 insurgency in Macedonia. Several editors have checked the cited sources and they don't discuss such links (Talk:2001_insurgency_in_Macedonia#Al-Qaeda involvement). Can the article get a full protection?--Maleschreiber (talk) 20:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Nationalist edit warring in Balkan article

Less than a month ago you warned ButtersIO that " If it appears you are here on Wikipedia only for purposes of nationalist edit warring (e.g. removing Albanian names), you may be indefinitely blocked" and noted that "Your main activity since arriving on Wikipedia seems to be taking away the Albanian names from articles. If this continues I doubt you will be on Wikipedia much longer". Today they made 4 reverts on 2001 insurgency in Macedonia to add that participant at the conflict was Al-Qaeda, a view typical of Macedonian nationalists. Since you already know this editor, I am leaving this note here as maybe you are able to do sth. Ktrimi991 (talk) 20:41, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Notified User:ButtersIO at this link. EdJohnston (talk) 22:26, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

arabian sea

there are many mistake in the page I am trying to add necessary information.according to hundreds of books and documents previous name of Arabian sea was persian sea but there is no even a single mention of the name persian sea in all article.for example look at reference (8) in the alternative name:" Erythraean Sea, this reference itself is a prove of the persian sea look at para 34- 35 . why they don't want to mention it. somebody should look at my edit references and add the historical names and maps. at the moment it is not fair. revers of my edit is against the policy and the aims of wikipedi . 00:45, 27 May 2021 (UTC)