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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 March 2021

Lord Ayyappa got trained in the Kalarippayattu martial arts at Cheerappanchira Kalari that belonged to Ezhava tharavad in Muhamma, Alappuzha. 117.206.43.67 (talk) 07:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.
SSSB (talk) 08:44, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe he thought about adding about Cheerappanchira. Image is available Cheerappan Chira Kalari,Room used by Lord Swamy Ayyappa when he was staying and training in this ancient Thiyyar Chekavar kalari,which trace their origin to Kadathanadu.Malikapurathamma worshipped at Shabarimala is from cheerappanchira

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:48, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I will explain , also I can see many requests to add ezhavar's old Kalari traditions below such as aloomootil etc. Let me explain this firstly , as you are all foreigners, you might not be knowing the Hindu god Ayyappan in Sabarimala. He is a warrior hindu god born in kerala and Sabarimala is one of the top pilgrimage site in India.

This great Hindu god Ayyappa trained and studied warfare from a Thiyya Kalari called Cheerappanchira. Since this great hindu god learned warfare and fighting from this thiyya kalari . it is notable to add in the page , which would be symbolising the Thiyya's kalari traiditon. Already a section is there called Chekavar in the page you can add this pic to it somewhere as an example, since we could not add all historical kalaris in this Wikipedia article but can add this one as an example.


Cheerappan Chira Kalari,Room used by Lord Swamy Ayyappa when he was staying and training in this ancient Thiyyar Chekavar kalari,which trace their origin to Kadathanadu.Malikapurathamma worshipped at Shabarimala is from cheerappanchira

Also please don't change the description of the image.

So all together, under chekavar section or somewhere near History (which says ,There are myths of origin for the Ezhava. According to some Malayalam folk songs like Vadakkan Pattukal[13][which?] and legend, the Ezhavas were the progeny of four bachelors that the king of Ceylon (Sri Lanka) sent to what is now Kerala at the request of the Chera king Bhaskara Ravi Varma, in the 1st century CE) you can add this pic to give a proof of thiyya kalaris

The image caption it is said Cheerappan Chira Kalari, Room used by Lord Swamy Ayyappa when he was staying and training in this ancient Thiyyar Chekavar Kalari, which trace their origin to Kadathanadu. Here the article says Thiyyas were from North Malabar and is sourced, then how it would be a Thiyyar Kalari even the Cheerappanchira article itself says as an Ezhava Tharavad located in Travancore? R.COutlander07@talk 13:42, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]


They were from kadathanad area, present day vadakara. So it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.222.167.243 (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As it is like a contradictory statement a reliable source would help better for the proposed changes. R.COutlander07@talk 13:59, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:32, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, right. Please add this photo in the history section which shows ezhava ancient ezhava kalari tradition, for explanation please see above-posted things.

Cheerappan Chira Kalari,Room used by Lord Swamy Ayyappa when he was staying and training in this ancient Thiyyar Chekavar kalari,which trace their origin to Kadathanadu.Malikapurathamma worshipped at Shabarimala is from cheerappanchira

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. R.COutlander07@talk 15:52, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

few reliable source : https://www.mathrubhumi.com/spirituality/specials/sabarimala-2019/features/cheerappanchira-moolasthanam-malikappuram-1.4337851

https://www.newindianexpress.com/magazine/2015/jan/24/In-Memory-of-a-Warrior-Deity-709189.html

Why are you reverting the edit request status? R.COutlander07@talk 16:13, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Partly done: The provided source doesn't mention their Kadathanad tradition so the image caption has changed as apposite to the main Cheerappanchira article. R.COutlander07@talk 16:29, 11 May 2021 (UTC) R.COutlander07@talk 16:29, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This one would serve the purpose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIOD9NUKvYM , watch from 3mins

From the stream 3:23, it is heard they taught the Kadathanadan Poozhi style to Lord Ayyappa and no mention was made of their origin. As it is a caste-related article a scholarly material will definitely serve the purpose rather than legendary newspaper articles and video documentaries.WP:RS. R.COutlander07@talk 07:50, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2021

In the first paragraph "In the present day, the Ezhavas are classified as an Other Backward Class by the Government of India under its system of positive discrimination."

This is already added in apt place in right section under Position in society already.

Request to remove that redundant sentence from the beginning of the article in first para.

 Not done for now: I don't understand your argument. The lead is supposed to summarise the articles content, so this seems perfectly fine to me.
SSSB (talk) 08:41, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See it is not important which reservation category in government list they belong. The thing is already added in Position in society . If you look other caste pages in India, it is not a convention to add that in the very beginning ...for eg look Yadav,Iyer,Pulayar , Mudaliar or look for any caste pages. It is not a import thing which category in reservation this caste belongs, may be you can add down,here it as been already added.

Also, it is not sourced also.

Request to remove that sentence , as the same sentence is already added down- in which governent reservation category they belong.

Thank you for your input! As mentioned before, the lead summarizes the rest of the article's content, so the OBC description has been included in the lead as a summary of the content in the "Position in society" section. Also, the OBC description is sourced in the "Position in society" section, so it does not have to be sourced in the lead section. Thanks again! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 12:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and sourced the claim in the lead section as well. Thanks again! P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 12:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2021 (2)

Lord Ayyappa was trained at Cheerappanchira, an Ezhava Kalari located at Muhamma, Alappuzha. Many ezhavas were soldiers in Royal service. 59.97.59.135 (talk) 16:56, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format also provide a reliable source for the changes. Outlander07@talk 17:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alummoottil Tharavad is an aristocratic Ezhava family hailing from the central Travancore region in Kerala. During the 17th and 18th century the Tharavad was responsible for supplying infantry and light cavalry for the army of the Maharaja of Kayamkulam and Travancore. Although, involved heavily in the military machinery of the kingdom, the business empire, wealth and assets of the Tharavad would rather have qualified it in the Vaishya sect, if it existed within Kerala's Chathurvarna ladder. 59.97.59.135 (talk) 17:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: You are asked to provide a reliable source for the changes to be made. Outlander07@talk 17:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please add these after checking the facts? Abhiram Chekavar (talk) 11:10, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is the responsibility of the person making the request to supply sources to verify their claims. These sources need to be provided before this request can be implemented. Additionally, where should this be added?
SSSB (talk) 11:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2021 (4)

Alummoottil Tharavad is an aristocratic Ezhava family hailing from the central Travancore region in Kerala. During the 17th and 18th century the Tharavad was responsible for supplying infantry and light cavalry for the army of the Maharaja of Kayamkulam and Travancore. Although, involved heavily in the military machinery of the kingdom, the business empire, wealth and assets of the Tharavad would rather have qualified it in the Vaishya sect, if it existed within Kerala Chaturvarna ladder. http://alummoottil.com/home.htm#:~:text=Alummoottil%20Tharavad%20is%20an%20aristocratic,Maharaja%20of%20Kayamkulam%20and%20Travancore.&text=Sponsored%20by%20Ezhava%20Community. 59.97.59.135 (talk) 17:33, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:38, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 May 2021

The theory related to caste system in kerala regarding the Jain was wrong . The nairs are kshethriya they are not given shudra status Allow to edit such things Kailash1234 (talk) 13:13, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. R.COutlander07@talk 13:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This wikipedia page is providing misinformation.and showing one sided things only

The page lacks proper information about notable ezhava personalities and is totally misleading Worldofknowledge121 (talk) 14:54, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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