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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Jakey222 (talk | contribs) at 15:42, 13 October 2021 (→occupation of Crimea: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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WP:Common name and WP:POVNAME

Rename the article to Russian military intervention in Ukraine or the Russo-Ukrainian conflict. Most sources don’t call it the Russo-Ukrainian War. Please read WP:Common name, and also WP:POVNAME. The article was originally titled the Russian military intervention in Ukraine (2014–present), but in June 2020 it was changed to the Russo-Ukrainian War—the proposer of this page move was sockpuppet of User:Dolyn. -- Tobby72 (talk) 08:25, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tobby72 I created a redirect. Perhaps you could make another move request. --Firestar464 (talk) 06:37, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Euromaidan and Anti-Maidan

What is the purpose of the 'Euromaidan and Anti-Maidan' section in the context of 'Russo-Ukrainian War'? I feel that section can be trimmed to be a more concise, with much of the specific left for the dedicated articles. Also there some issues there, for example with timeline [added for emphasis]:

[On 22] The protesters took control of government buildings in the capital city of Kyiv, along with the city itself. [..] After this incident, [On 21]the Ukrainian parliament voted to restore the 2004 Constitution of Ukraine

--Jakey222 (talk) 23:39, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore restoring the 2004 Constitution, as a goal of the protest, is an important event in the context of Euromaidan. But is it relevant to the Russo-Ukrainian conflict? It would be nice to see more sources that focus on Russo-Ukrainian conflict proper.--Jakey222 (talk) 07:33, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Map of the conflict in Crimea?

Any chance for some wikipidean made or free source variant of this map found here [1]--Jakey222 (talk) 12:40, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Better translated version of this map, or whatever else you can find --Jakey222 (talk) 10:29, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Should also show the international and Crimea–Kherson boundary lines. —Michael Z. 18:10, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Maps of Crimea: We could use an English map with some level of detail regarding the Feb-March 2014 invasion,

Maps of East of Ukraine: We could use a map of the situation on the eve of conflict on April-ish 2014

--Jakey222 (talk) 14:42, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A map request was created at: Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Map_workshop#Russia-Ukraine_conflict. Any input would be apricated. --Jakey222 (talk) 18:29, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

War in Donbas summary suggestions?

A follow up to the discussion above #Is this article duplicates the scope of War in Donbas?. It has been noted that this is a summary article and suggested that the 'War in Donbas' section could use some trimming. Any thoughts on this thoughts and suggestions on this would be apricated. --Jakey222 (talk) 04:52, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One problem stems from Russian continued to deny involvement, and this article cover many instances of Russian involvement being revealed (e.g. 'Luhansk region' subsection). I don't believe this info, especially at such level of detail, belongs in this section at top article. However, I haven't seen anything like it include anywhere else, so I am not sure where it should go (another section/article?), . --Jakey222 (talk) 04:52, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Glazyev tapes?

I believe that that Glazyev tapes receive undue weight on this page and would like to trim it. The problem is that while topic covered elsewhere, currently Glazyev tapes redirects here. Obviously I don't want to lose any details. So what is the procedure here? (Also is there any other place I can ask questions this topic seem a little inactive at times) --Jakey222 (talk) 20:06, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jakey222 Wikipedia:Be bold. You do not need to discuss every single action. Do what you think is necessary. Renat 20:16, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In this case knowing what possible would sure help further things.--Jakey222 (talk) 06:06, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

occupation of Crimea

@Seryo93: Concerning your edit fair enough. The way I see it, the Annexation seem to refer to the act of incorporating occupied territories (aspects of which are covered in detail on the main article) rather than the military actions that preceding/following it here. Also on the Ukrainian language version Crimea and Donbass are incorporated into a single theater. This way 'Occupation of Crimea February-March 2014' followed by the events of fighting in Donbas March–July 2014 seem to follow more naturally, and then "Crimean" 2016 border and 2018 Kerch escalations can be explained as part of the wider conflict and external factors like NATO build. Just couple of things to consider. --Jakey222 (talk) 15:42, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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