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Hypixel is located in Québec, and the founders are Québécois. Should it be mentioned in the article?
Félix An (talk) 23:16, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Interesting question. First, what does "located in Québec" means? The Minecraft servers are hosted in Chicago, but the Store is obviously Canadian (payments must be international or Canadian). I would say that "the founders are Québécois" alone is not server-related, but "French was the first foreign language understood by a mod member" is. Normally, it would be on the page about the founders, but themselves aren't notable enough to have their own WP page. Obviously, all of this assumes there's a reliable source stating the link between that and a noticeable effect on the server. Else, what about saying what was the founder's favorite meal during the first year of operation? 193.191.221.220 (talk) 07:51, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
- To add: they have moved their offices to Northern Ireland in 2020, per https://hytale.com/news/2020/7/progress-update-july-30-2020 . If you wanted to note were they were founded I guess that would be fine, but it should be added they are not headquartered there. 2604:6000:7D46:E401:9C73:CC02:D766:1A98 (talk) 16:03, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
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All the references in the table in the Accolades section are wrong
Numerous references are listed for every world record, but almost all of them refer to Hytale, not the world records, and the only one that does refer to its world record is no longer functional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NotRollo (talk • contribs) 04:30, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Did you even read the articles? The content is mentioned in each source, and the ref 23 just requires a registration. Nixinova T C 04:36, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- I'm the person who actually added Guiness as a source. Yes, most of the articles are about Hytale, but they mention in passing that the Hypixel server broke the records. What reference is "no longer functional"? We only have 3 kind of sources, and none of them are perfect : A) the non-independant Hypixel announcement claiming they have 4 records B) the free-registration-required Guiness search which confirms that and C) independant sources covering the same information when explaining why Hypixel is not a random Minecraft servers across the thousands of servers existing worldwide. In theory, I guess the Hytale articles aren't *necessary* but having a single-source requiring registration looks like a recipe for verification problems. (Historically, I think the Guiness Search is the last source added, so the articles WERE necessary at the time?) 193.191.221.220 (talk) 09:45, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Sourcing of the minigames
@SWinxy: I think all the minigames I added are reliably sourced. Is there anything that I am missing? Huaqin (talk) 17:41, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- My bad. These are sourced, and I shouldn't have reverted. There is the question of whether or not it should be included in the article, we haven't yet had a discussion here. If there is consensus, you should absolutely revert my revert. SWinxy (talk) 20:07, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I’m not sure if what I added was WP:GAMECRUFT. Huaqin (talk) 01:00, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
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A myth about the name "Hypixel" comes from the early days of minecraft servers. When a chest shop the item name would be on a sign alongside the price for example Diamond Pickaxe 200 coins. This worked well until enchantments were added. Enchantments make a tool better but the chest shops could no display enchantments on an item for example an Diamond pickaxe with unbreaking 3 would still say Diamond Pickaxe 300 coins. The enchantments on the item made them cost more and without knowing the enchantments people wanted the best enchants. That is why Hypixel is derived from High picks sell AbhiDaGamer (talk) 00:33, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: This is not really worth mentioning. Besides, I can't find anything about it on the internet - sounds like a joke. --TheImaCow (talk) 01:17, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- I never heard about this origin, while it is true that the ChestShop plugin didn't show enchantments. According to a few research, Simon changed his Youtube name in 2012, so it *may* be possible. But not proven false doesn't mean it's true.193.191.221.220 (talk) 13:16, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Should a gameplay section be added to the article?
Any thoughts on whether a gameplay section like this, which, among other things, goes into detail about the minigames, should be included? Huaqin (talk) 14:37, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
- To be honest, this example is very confusing, mixing games, cheat detection and monetisation model. Besides that, I think it falls under "(No) Lists of gameplay items, weapons, or concepts" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Video_games#Inappropriate_content193.191.221.220 (talk) 13:19, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Would shortening the section to not specifically mention any minigames or items work? Like: "Hypixel has various minigames, multiplayer games created by editing and repurposing the game mechanics of Minecraft. The server tries to find players that are hacking using a mechanism named 'Watchdog'. Players can purchase, among other things, cosmetics and ranks that allow for certain abilities and qualities." Huaqin (talk) 17:09, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've added the shortened version above. Feel free to change the section if it has any problems. Huaqin (talk) 15:58, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- I really do feel like an explanation of minigames could work if it can just put the games into more general categories (some games are competitive, some games are casual), or it could talk about the more played games and tell statistics about certain ones, though unfortunatly wikipedia is not very suited for a full explanation of all games in the hypixel article. If none of those ideas sound like they'd work, then maybe consider making an article like "List of minigames in Hypixel"
MelonIsYes (talk) 21:18, 26 February 2021 (UTC)- At least briefly explaining some of the most popular minigames (Skyblock, Bedwars, Skywars) would be good IMO. "various multiplayer minigames created by modifying and repurposing the game mechanics of Minecraft" isn't quite descriptive - what would those minigames entail? M2r1k5 (talk) 03:57, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- This is an encyclopedia, a "summary of knowledge", and this also means it should be based on secondary sources. If there are no sources independent of the subject which go into this level of detail, we can leave that kind of detail to a fan-site or something. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 04:08, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- At least briefly explaining some of the most popular minigames (Skyblock, Bedwars, Skywars) would be good IMO. "various multiplayer minigames created by modifying and repurposing the game mechanics of Minecraft" isn't quite descriptive - what would those minigames entail? M2r1k5 (talk) 03:57, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
- I really do feel like an explanation of minigames could work if it can just put the games into more general categories (some games are competitive, some games are casual), or it could talk about the more played games and tell statistics about certain ones, though unfortunatly wikipedia is not very suited for a full explanation of all games in the hypixel article. If none of those ideas sound like they'd work, then maybe consider making an article like "List of minigames in Hypixel"
- I've added the shortened version above. Feel free to change the section if it has any problems. Huaqin (talk) 15:58, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Would shortening the section to not specifically mention any minigames or items work? Like: "Hypixel has various minigames, multiplayer games created by editing and repurposing the game mechanics of Minecraft. The server tries to find players that are hacking using a mechanism named 'Watchdog'. Players can purchase, among other things, cosmetics and ranks that allow for certain abilities and qualities." Huaqin (talk) 17:09, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
"Bedwars" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Bedwars. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 13#Bedwars until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed, Rosguill talk 15:59, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
"Accolades" are broken
The revision from 13:14, 19 April 2021 broke the formatting of the Accolades section. May be tricky to fix as this version was then used by the future improvements? Link to the revision : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hypixel&diff=1018711180&oldid=1015126138 193.191.221.220 (talk) 14:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Fixed. Just a missing line break. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 15:04, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Add section about influence on Youtube and Minecraft community
Since so many people play on Hypixel, it's had a big influence on the Minecraft community. Gamemodes like Skywars, Bedwars, and Skyblock have launched hundreds of careers. Skyblock's economy has created illegal real life markets for coins and items and caused thousands to get into real life investing. The influence that this server has had on the Minecraft community is profound, and the article should reflect that. Grameeow (talk) 16:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Grameeow: See WP:NOR and WP:V. You must have reliable sources which support this information. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 18:41, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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Change the player count from "over 100,000 on peak hours" to 200,000, as 216,000 is the current record for Hypixel.net. Matthew917 (talk) 03:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. SWinxy (talk) 03:36, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
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Change the citation no. 4 to use https://minetrack.me it shows the amount of players on the server at the moment and also historical data like the mosts players which where online at once plus they also have an archive which allows everyone to download all historical data they collected. Alexander1607 (talk) 09:12, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: This source isn't actually any more reliable than the current poor source. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:43, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- I was going to propose putting both sources, but then learned that the Minetrack software has been opensourced by an Hypixel Studio dev, which may be an issue too. 193.191.221.220 (talk) 11:19, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
June 2021 DDoS attacks and full Cloudflare
As of June 2021, Hypixel has moved all of its servers and hardware to Cloudflare after a series of large scale attacks. This is still ongoing right now, and seems like a fairly major event, so I thought I'd ask if we should add it. Maybe under the part about Cloudflare in 2018? Not sure. Here's a link to the incident report: https://status.hypixel.net/incidents/tcsyp6sl632g. Pg4919 (talk) 18:33, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- This needs to be covered inn secondary sources if it is to be included in an encyclopedia... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 18:38, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not necessarily. Usually primary sources are fine, but they deserve more scrutiny. Per WP:PSTS, uses of these types of sources should be at the editor's discretion. I would say it would be worth mentioning, but to use an archived link to the temporary homepage, where it explains in more detail. SWinxy (talk) 00:57, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- This looks like routine service issues. Without secondary sources to give it importance, it's not worth covering. Otherwise, why choose this one over any of the other incidents or events? Including the DDoS one and not, say, API outage is subjective, which is exactly why we need secondary sources for this sort of content. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 09:22, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I miswrote. I meant to say that if it were to be mentioned, use the archived site as a citation. Main point being that primary sources aren't banned. SWinxy (talk) 01:09, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- This looks like routine service issues. Without secondary sources to give it importance, it's not worth covering. Otherwise, why choose this one over any of the other incidents or events? Including the DDoS one and not, say, API outage is subjective, which is exactly why we need secondary sources for this sort of content. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 09:22, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not necessarily. Usually primary sources are fine, but they deserve more scrutiny. Per WP:PSTS, uses of these types of sources should be at the editor's discretion. I would say it would be worth mentioning, but to use an archived link to the temporary homepage, where it explains in more detail. SWinxy (talk) 00:57, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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In the section where it says the server owner's username and states 'Hypixel' should be changed to 'hypixel'. you can check many YouTube videos by popular creators to check this. TheGnuGod (talk) 07:54, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- Please provide reliable sources to support the change you want made. YouTubers are not reliable sources. Leijurv (talk) 07:57, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- An RS isn't needed to fix a capitalisation issue. I can confirm here his name is indeed lowercase. Nixinova T C 23:20, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- If anyone is wondering, Minecraft doesn't allow two usernames with only a differing case so that excludes the possibility of an impersonator. 193.191.221.220 (talk) 11:15, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- An RS isn't needed to fix a capitalisation issue. I can confirm here his name is indeed lowercase. Nixinova T C 23:20, 10 July 2021 (UTC)