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Óscar Bruzón

He is not in charge of that team anymore.

@115.187.57.149: First, please sign your posts with four tiddles. Second, please post talk messages at the bottom of a talk page. Third, per my warning, add a citation when adding information about living persons, per WP:BLP. Thank you Such-change47 (talk) 11:35, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Sargeant

Do you think the reference I added on Mark Sargeant#Legal problems is good? https://www.audacy.com/krld/news/local/judge-allows-flight-attendants-lawsuit-to-go-to-jury-trial
You opened this account on 3 Dec '21 and have already installed Red Warn and Twinkle? I'm behind the times! Cheers Adakiko (talk) 11:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Adakiko, yes it was great. I think that user is intentionally trying to remove negative commentary on the article subject. Perhaps promo? Definitely COI breaching, appears the account is solely focused on removing the negative information. I actually would not work out how to use Redwarn! But Twinkle is really cool. I have only been using it to warn for obvious vandalism etc :) Cheers Such-change47 (talk) 11:11, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for checking! It's always good to have multiple sources for something like that. I was hesitant to revert before checking for more sources. wp:Libel Cheers Adakiko (talk) 11:14, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I did an oopsie: User talk:Adakiko#Important notice ! Adakiko (talk) 11:57, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
AdakikoI hope I did not do one also! Such-change47 (talk) 12:04, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted thrice, you only once. So not the naughty as I! Thanks for your message on my talk page. Very big of you! Quite impressed. Most would try to hide. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 12:08, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Adakiko I know I am very new and so wanna be careful when giving warnings/reverting etc Such-change47 (talk) 12:12, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

About my edits

I am extremely sorry for what I did I request you not to block me I promise I will never do that again 203.163.245.129 (talk) 08:04, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

203.163.245.129 I appreciate the note, and I am glad the warnings were taken heed of. I have already reported you to WP:AIV and it is their decision on whether to place a block on your account. I have no idea why you have been making such blatantly destructive edits to various pages, but constructive to others. You seem to have some knowledge on how Wikipedia operates if you are aware of how to use a talk page. I kindly suggest you put these skills and efforts into constructive editing. Your random vandalism is not funny or clever. No blatant vandalism lasts for longer than a minute or so anyway, usually it will only be seconds before a user or bot removes it. Had an admin been checking your edits, you may have already been blocked. Please ensure you do not waste our time with intentionally unhelpful editing. Thanks very much. Such-change47 (talk) 08:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia article on Gyaru

Hi! Thank you for your message; I've seen the Manual of Style warning before but I'm at a loss on how to fix additions I've made to the article before. Just as you said Wikipedia is a teamwork effort but this message has appeared before the changes I've made to the article, today; I genuinely am unsure how to make it more presentable and appropriate to the standards that Wikipedia holds. Could you please help or give me pointers on how to improve it? Thank you. Have a nice day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.99.169.177 (talk) 16:02, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there 89.99.169.177, not a problem. I think it is important to pay attention to style. eg. 'These geners of' contains a spelling error. Given the nature of the content, it may be that you are a Japanese user with English not as your native language. If so, I humbly thank you for your contributions which are clearly in good faith. Please however, consult an online dictionary for any words you are unsure of. It is super important to not just add content, but also add content that is spelled correctly with proper grammar, formatting, and punctuation. Otherwise, the article will be tagged as needing improvement and this creates additional work for the copy editing team. Anyway, thanks for the message. Your contributions are greatly appreciated. May I kindly suggest signing up for an account also? It makes tracking your edits much easier. Such-change47 (talk) 03:09, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted changes

What is the reliable source for the original version or reversions? We need objectivity of our judicial system which includes its many serious flaws. Trying to glorify our system is misleading to the public and permits continued corruption. 12.217.180.250 (talk) 13:12, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You added subjective words like Bizarre in places that did not quite make sense. You also made stated "many experts" without a citation. Overall the edit did not really make sense or improve the article. Wikipedia is not a place for advocacy, please see wp:npov cheers. Such-change47 (talk) 13:22, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome, I see you're interested in a number of Australian labour topics and I think you might enjoy Wikipedia:WikiProject Organized Labour ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 22:24, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!ShushugahSuch-change47 (talk) 22:41, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edits made to the The_Unforgivable entry

Please do not refer to the edits I've made to the The_Unforgivable entry as 'vandalism of wikipedia'. Even if such edits were in fact an act of 'vandalism', they would not be the 'vandalising of wikipedia' as a whole but of a single entry. For easier orientation: If I were to stick chewing gum on the knob of a shopping mall toilet, I would not have had vandalized the shopping mall, I would not have had vandalized the door itself, I would have had vandalized the knob. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.129.93.251 (talk) 23:13, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 188.129.93.251 I placed a standardised third warning on your wall after you blanked an article for a third time and had already received two gentle warnings from others. Deleting large parts of an article is very rarely appropriate. Rather, gradual editing is required, with good edit summaries on each edit required. Section blanking by a new and unregistered user will trip edit filters. If I had not reverted the change, someone else certainly would have and given the previous two warnings, the third one I used would likely have been added. Thanks, and please do stay on Wikipedia and keep editing! Such-change47 (talk) 23:22, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Rusalkii was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Rusalkii (talk) 19:31, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Mhawk10 was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Mhawk10 (talk) 06:55, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

December 2021

Information icon Hello, I'm Ïvana. Your recent edit(s) to the page Korean wave appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been reverted for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Ïvana (talk) 12:16, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ïvana: please take more care when posting templates on pages. I did not add any information at all. I am a recent changes patroller and actually undid that information - I did not leave that information. Such-change47 (talk) 12:29, 16 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Content you added to the above article appears to have been copied from http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/QUTLawJl/1997/16.pdf, which is not released under a compatible license. Copying text directly from a source is a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy. Unfortunately, for copyright reasons, the content had to be removed. Content you add to Wikipedia should be written in your own words. Please let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa (talk) 14:28, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there @Diannaa: and thanks a lot for all the work you do removing copyright. I understand this is a priority for Wikipedia. When I decided to review Dietrich v R, I did check the history and saw you'd previously left copyright warnings on another editors page. I went and looked up precisely what is and what is not copyright determined here. I am a little confused. I have published journal articles previously during my thesis at law school (I have ensured I do not write anywhere I have a wp:COI), and I very loosely paraphrase all the time. It is fine provided the source is attributed. I also publish in commercial texts, and loose paraphrasing does not violate copyright provided it's a small amount and attribution is made. I did this here, I very loosely paraphrased a few short sentences from a journal article. This constitutes fair use? It was also attributed. I know you do not have the time to hand-hold every new editor, but I come to Wikipedia with a lot of experience in writing legal journal articles and as a practising lawyer, it could be worth a moment of your time to please highlight precisely where I went wrong here? I did not copy text. That would be copy/pasting and highly problematic. A very short amount of text was paraphrased, I do not even think closely paraphrased? I do not even know what was deleted because that is hidden, and so now cannot re-write the work. Anyway, I hope you understand that I very much agree with the importance of copyright, and did not mean any harm. Will try even harder in future, however by citing the article I think this shows I was trying hard to add scholarly material...- Such-change47 (talk) 23:03, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia has a very strict copyright policy, stricter in some ways than copyright law itself, because our fair use policy does not allow us to copy material from copyright sources when there's a freely licensed alternative available. In this case the freely licensed material is prose that we write ourselves. You must put all information in your own words and structure, in summary style.
Your addition was flagged by a bot as a potential copyright issue and was assessed by myself. Here is a link to the bot report. Click on the iThenticate link to view what the bot found. You can see the highlighted content, which is identical to the source, not paraphrased at all.— Diannaa (talk) 23:10, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK @Diannaa:, well I will just accept your advice at face value given your experience. Do you have any tips? Obviously aside from being more careful in future, is there a way to check my work using a tool like that? Looks much like turnitin used at universities to check work! Cheers Such-change47 (talk) 23:14, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We do indeed use the Turnitin! They graciously donate us use of their service. Our CopyPatrol system uses it as part of our automated copyright detection. It can even compare with journal articles that are behind a paywall.
What you as an individual can do is use https://copyleaks.com/compare to compare your proposed text with your source document. That tool works best with short passages and you will only get a limited number of free looks per day. For Wikipedia, we primarily use Earwig's tool. This one has the drawback that the content must already be posted somewhere on Wikipedia, and we don't actually allow copyright material to be posted anywhere, not even in sandboxes or drafts. So it's best if you have it totally clean before you add it to Wikipedia. we also have https://dupdet.toolforge.org/ which can compare any webpage with any other webpage, but it's primitive compared to Earwig's tool.
Here is some general advice, if you are interested: Content has to be written in your own words and not include any wording from the source material. One thing I find that works for me is to read over the source material and then pretend I am verbally describing the topic to a friend in my own words. Stuff should also be presented in a different order where possible. Summarize rather than paraphrase. This will typically result in your version being much shorter than the source document. There's some reading material on this topic at Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing and/or have a look at the material at Paraphrase: Write It in Your Own Words. Check out the links in the menu on the left for some exercises to try. Or study this module aimed at WikiEd students.— Diannaa (talk) 23:24, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for all this @Diannaa:. I'm grateful for the help, and also for not having a formal warning template or block issued. I hope I do not trigger the copyright filter again.-Such-change47 (talk) 23:27, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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