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Rachel Levy (December 13, 2019). "How the 1% Scrubs Its Image Online". The Wall Street Journal. Retrieved December 15, 2019. The hedge fund of billionaire Ken Griffin, Citadel LLC, hired Status Labs to edit information on Wikipedia in 2015 about the fund's investments and Mr. Griffin's art collection, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Market maker

This section reads like an ad and should discuss the controversies over payment for order flow and high-frequency trading. For example, see:

https://www.ft.com/content/ee8d4ba0-d9a8-11e6-944b-e7eb37a6aa8e

https://www.ft.com/content/4a439398-88ab-442a-9927-e743a3ff609b

Please update the article if so, however Reliable, verifiable, independent sources are required to support material added to articles. Please sign your talk page contributions with 4 tildes. Thanks. --Guiy de Montfort (talk) 12:13, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Citadel and Apex clearing linked to GME short squeeze

There should be some acknowledgement of this based on RS

https://www.wsj.com/articles/citadel-point72-to-invest-2-75-billion-into-melvin-capital-management-11611604340 TuffStuffMcG (talk) 19:46, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

nevermind, I see a short blurb since the page reset

TuffStuffMcG (talk) 19:47, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2021

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Robinhood owned by Citadel LLC 71.241.203.144 (talk) 11:25, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It’s not, Citadel is the main market maker for Robinhood --Devokewater (talk) 11:29, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Involvement in the Gamestop short squeeze of 2021

Nowhere does this article even mention the role Citadel played in what has become one of the largest news stories of the decade. This needs to be rectified ASAP! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.234.105 (talk) 17:48, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Page Lock

I highly recommend this page get locked for the next few months. This kind of vandalism will occur repeatedly until the situation surrounding GameStop ($GME) resolves. TranceaddicT (talk) 21:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wondering if there's not about to be a massive amount of vandalism coming in.

I'm not too familiar with Wikipedia's rules on locking things.

but it's probably going to be prudent to lock the article from editing for the next while. Until what's going on with gamestop blows over. Just think it would save a lot of work, possibly preventing an absurd amount of vandalism, from both sides of the 'fight'. 75.168.21.203 (talk) 03:17, 19 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Citadel is a known hedgefund which deals in naked shorts sellings of stocks. Citadel knows this is illegal but they do not care. They enjoy engaging in fraudulent activities to line their own pockets and bankrupt companies and make thousands of people jobless. 80.0.159.46 (talk) 13:52, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. lomrjyo^{(talk•contrib•Ping with {{u|Lomrjyo}})} 13: 56, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Illegal market manipulation

Definitly needs some parts about the 'supposed' *wink wink* illegal market manipulation during the AMC squeeze, such as naked shorting, FTD manipulation, FUD spreading in social media and news and at least some semi-illegal, shady moves like rerouting order flow through dark pools to fake selling pressure. ApeGladiator (talk) 15:43, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What are the reliable sources covering that information? Schazjmd (talk) 15:49, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

" Citadel Securities automation has resulted in more reliable trading at lower costs and with tighter spreads"

This is straight up lies, pr talk from Citadel to dupe unsuspecting customers, backed by an article clearly pushed by PFOF brokers too muddy the waters of "facts". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sek3000 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to split out the section called Citadel Securities

I propose that the section called "Citadel Securities" be split off into a separate page also called "Citadel Securities" for the following reasons:

Citadel Securities is a separate company from Citadel. Citadel Securities is a market maker, one of the largest in the world, while Citadel, the subject of this article, is an asset manager. It is confusing and inaccurate to feature a separate company (Citadel Securities) as a subset/division of another company, (Citadel), as is implied by the structure and content of this article.
In addition, Citadel Securities can easily exist as a separate, stand-alone article since it passes Wikipedia standards for notability based on a prevalence of significant coverage in reliable sources. Here are a few examples of such coverage: https://www.ft.com/content/58dd7e9d-9483-4ec7-9fdf-1a45f373e8b5; https://www.wsj.com/articles/spotify-picks-citadel-securities-to-handle-debut-at-nyse-1520439264; https://qz.com/1969196/citadel-securities-gets-almost-as-much-trading-volume-as-nasdaq/

I have already created a draft of "Citadel Securities" in my userspace, found at User:Amandaatcitadel/Citadel Securities, which is identical to the current "Citadel Securities" section, except that I added an Infobox, a lead section with reliable sources, an External links section, and the correction of the founding date to 2002. I am notifying JBchrch who recently helped me with Ken Griffin's page. If there is anything else you need, please let me know. Amandaatcitadel (talk) 14:42, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Their was a recent article about Citadel in the FT, Citadel Securities is a seperate entity from the Hedge Fund business, it needs its own wikipage due to its size + prominence. --Devokewater ^(talk) 14:45, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. We generally do not spin off the securities division of big financial groups into separate articles: see Primary dealers § Current primary dealers with the Federal Reserve Bank of New York for a list of prominent examples. The applicable policy here is WP:PAGEDECIDE whose criteria, in my opinion, call for keeping everything in one article. However, I do concede that treating Citadel Securities as a sub-topic of Citadel "The Fund" is sub-optimal, so what I would suggest is to rebrand the article as "Citadel", i.e. a "financial group" comprising both an asset management arm and a market making/securities arm. JBchrch talk 14:58, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Citadel and Citadel Securities are completely independent, separate companies, and the latter is not "the securities division" of the former. They are both subsidiaries of Citadel Enterprise Americas, LLC, a non-notable holding company. There are plenty of examples on Wikipedia of independently notable sister companies that merit their own standalone articles, such as HSBC Finance and HSBC Insurance; or GE Digital and GE Power.

Oppose. For the same reasoning that JBchrch lists and support the rebrand as "Citadel", i.e. a "financial group". WestportWiki (talk) 22:11, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]