Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Central States Development Hockey League

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The result was delete. After being relisted to research sources twice, and there has been no improvement there is clear consensus to delete. I do note there is concern that it 'might' be notable, but that we haven't found sources. If more sourcing does show up demonstrating this is no mere youth league and notability is established and somebody wants to recreate it, there should be no problem with undeleting Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 12:51, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Central States Development Hockey League

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Non-notable youth (minor?) hockey league in the United States. No evidence of any coverage in the news media or similar reliable sources, based on Google searches. Nothing in the article demonstrates the significance of the league, even despite its large geographical coverage. As a tier II youth league—and fully amateur, as far as I can tell—it doesn't appear to have any specific notability as a sports league. —C.Fred (talk) 00:37, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Totally unreferenced at present and even if refs were provided, would not meet our notability criteria. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:25, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:23, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Appears to be a youth league. Not notable. -DJSasso (talk) 15:43, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, but move article to its correct name Central States Developmental Hockey League. This is a long established (since 1999) premier tier II ice hockey league that has developed several notable ice hockey players. Notability is determined by reliable sources, so if reliable sources are found then the article is a keep by WP:GNG. When searching for sources I found many[1] – more than enough to satisfy the GNG criteria - but the difficulty is that the article’s name is now incorrect, so that is the reason why other editors did not find reliable sources. Many reliable sources are found when searching for references using the correct name of Central States Developmental Hockey League. Orangeroof (talk) 18:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't the name that was the problem. It is the fact that it is a youth league without any non-routine coverage. Youth leagues don't generally get articles. Once you get up to Junior level leagues then things change, but leagues for 11 year olds etc just are not notable. -DJSasso (talk) 12:49, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Most of the websites from above seem to be for the league or individual teams. I can't find a lot of sources from newspapers. Patken4 (talk) 22:08, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per the above. The coverage available doesn't seem to indicate any notability here, though I'd be happy to re-evaluate that if you do find more sources about the league itself. UltraExactZZ ^Said~ Did 14:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. 12:00, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 16:00, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Since this AfD is ancient, I'm going to say, "I don't know." I can find evidence that player age goes up to 18, its not just a youth league. Also we have a "junior hockey" template that seems to have articles on all the major junior leagues in the US and Canada. I'd hate to see the article deleted because no one cares to look harder.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 04:41, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.