Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jollywood (disambiguation)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Normally, a redirect per WP:ATD and/or WP:CHEAP would be implemented, but Jollywood (disambiguation) just doesn't seem like something anybody would ever type into a search box, so it's a pointless redirect. -- RoySmith (talk) 21:51, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
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I don't see any acceptable support for the premise that Jollywood refers to Sanskrit cinema. For one thing, Sanskrit cinema tells us that there have been only six films in Sanskrit, so it's hardly the sort of industry likely to have a snappy name. Second, on the Web the only corroboration I find is this press release asserting that somebody named Manoj decided in 2018 (that is, in the last six and a half weeks) that Sanskrit cinema should be called Jollywood, and claiming that the term has already started becoming "popular" in Uttarakhand.
I came across a "Jollywood Films", but that appears to be some group creating videos for YouTube. I don't know any Indian languages so I can't tell what language is being spoken in the films, but there's no mention on their YouTube channel or Facebook page that the language is Sanskrit, and the videos aren't related to the list of films at Sanskrit cinema.
That leaves Assamese cinema. I do find support for the use of "Jollywood" to refer to that industry, such as [1], [2], [3]. It's reportedly named for the Jyoti Chitraban Film Studio and its founder Jyoti Prasad Agarwala.
For now, I've replaced that hatnote at Jollywood that was pointing here with one pointing to Assamese cinema, which should be updated to mention the Jollywood nickname. With that out of the way, there's no valid disambiguation for this page to perform. Largoplazo (talk) 02:34, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Delete Deep and well-explained nomination. And no cinema genre is going to have an airport accepted as the naming of their entire industry via common sense. Nate • (chatter) 07:31, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
- Weak keep - I have edited the page to make it more clear why the term needs to be disambiguated. While the article Assamese cinema has two references that it is nicknamed "Jollywood", the article Sanskrit cinema does not. I found a reference that suggests that it is a new nickname coined last month. The reference does not meet WP:RS, so I don't know how much stock we can put on this nickname. BarbadosKen (talk) 22:52, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- The reference you "found" is the one I mentioned above in my deletion rationale. As was implicit in my remarks, Wikipedia doesn't publish claims based on unfounded assertions in anonymous press releases reporting that someone has coined a term. Accordingly, I removed your mention of the unacceptable source. Largoplazo (talk) 23:52, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- I think the standards are lower for disambiguation pages which are not considered encyclopedic, and hence no references are allowed. Because the reference is shaky, I made my !vote as "Weak Keep". If the result of this AfD is to delete, we can just put a hat note for the Assamese cinema in the Jollywood article (which makes me wonder -- why isn't this disambiguation page linked from a hat note in the Jollywood article?). BarbadosKen (talk) 00:39, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- There's no standard under which Wikipedia articles, lists, disambiguation pages, or redirects reflect things that somebody has made up and for which there's no evidence in reliable sources. See WP:MADEUP and WP:V. The hatnote already covers the valid alternatives, so there's no reason also to link here to see one valid alternative and one invalid one. Your question about that reveals yet again that you're commenting in this deletion discussion without having read what the rationale for the nomination was in the first place. In order to contribute constructively to any discussion, please read what has already been discussed first. Largoplazo (talk) 01:16, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- I think the standards are lower for disambiguation pages which are not considered encyclopedic, and hence no references are allowed. Because the reference is shaky, I made my !vote as "Weak Keep". If the result of this AfD is to delete, we can just put a hat note for the Assamese cinema in the Jollywood article (which makes me wonder -- why isn't this disambiguation page linked from a hat note in the Jollywood article?). BarbadosKen (talk) 00:39, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Redirect to Jollywood – No comment. AaronWikia (talk) 07:47, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Ivecos (t) 18:31, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Ivecos (t) 18:34, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.