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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 5.171.225.43 (talk) at 09:44, 5 March 2022 (→‎Declining is for tumpoil: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Neutral Style

Thanks for reviewing Martin Mooney (artist) so quickly. Do you have any pointers on what is making it feel non-neutral? I can see the Critical Reception section as being quite promotional, but is still entirely factual. All/any advice gratefully received before I go back to editing. Wagsters — Preceding undated comment added 22:58, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Wagsters: for example, one line that stood out is "Mooney's still lifes in particular show the meticulous detail of 17th century Dutch masters and can take up to three years to complete." It sounds like something that would be found on their resume.
Another thing that could be improved is the lead section. Right now it says "Originally from Northern Ireland, Martin Mooney sold his first painting aged 12, a landscape of Tranarossan Bay in Donegal". I would suggest changing this to something like "Martin Mooney is a British artist, especially known for ....." Wgullyn (talk) 23:35, 2 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Wgullyn: Thanks, that's helpful. I will change those two things and review the rest of the article in that light.

Question about Mathias Schubert page

Hi Wgullyn,

I have been working on the page for Mathias Schubert, and was hoping to ask you a question about submitting the sandbox version. About a day ago, the sandbox was submitted, but got sent back due to the inline citations. Since then, there were more inline citations altered/added.

Do you think it looks okay to submit now? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mathias_Schubert)

Thanks for the help.

Ellipsometry65 (talk) 04:15, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ellipsometry65: Looks good to me. Wgullyn // talk // contribs 11:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

About Kedar Parulekar's Page

5 days ago you had reviewed my page Kedar Parulekar. It was declined. I have made some changes, can you please review it again and guide me ? Or till when will it be reviewed by anyone ?Pradnyeshparulekar (talk) 05:33, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the article is going to be accepted except if it is completely rewritten by someone else. Here are some of the things I noticed when I looked at the article:
  • tons of promotional language (he is ... and much more)
  • only a couple of the sources are reliable
  • some facts do not have inline citations
  • your name suggests you are related to the subject, which is a conflict of interest and is strongly discouraged
  • you have uploaded much of the media as your "own work" -- if you do not own the copyright that is not allowed
  • lots of external links that are promoting the subject's work
Any one of these is enough for the article to be declined. Wgullyn // talk // contribs 13:05, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Pradnyeshparulekar: Wgullyn // talk // contribs 13:06, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 19:56:01, 9 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Unlimitedmitch



Unlimitedmitch (talk) 19:56, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Sir, Please you just declined my submission on "Dr GD" and internet content creator from Nigeria. Please kindly help me to get it fixed.

Thank you

Mitchel

@Unlimitedmitch: firstly, almost the entire article is a copyright violation. Due to this, I've declined the draft and nominated it for speedy deletion. Please remember that plagiarism is not allowed in articles. Wgullyn // talk // contribs 20:07, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any other thing else rather than the copyright violation? Pls, kindly give me 48 hours before you delete the page.

Thanks

@Unlimitedmitch: the article has already been deleted. For future reference, there were quite a few other errors with the article -- it was improperly formatted, the headings were not inserted correctly, and it would have needed to be completely copy edited, as there were tons of grammar mistakes. I would suggest putting the text through an online tool like Grammarly, which can fix most grammar mistakes. Something that I found useful when I started editing was looking at existing articles to see how they were formatted. Cheers, Wgullyn // talk // contribs 21:26, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bio for Gary Samuelson

Hi Wgullyn, I resubmitted the biography page for Gary Samuelson addressing your comments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gary_Samuelson Any luck in getting this page approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlsrjlsr (talk • contribs) 22:55, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jlsrjlsr: it looks better now, but I'd just like to confirm that you don't have conflict of interest with the subject. You uploaded and tagged the image as your "own work" -- unless you own the copyright on the image, it has to be attributed properly. Wgullyn // talk // contribs 23:01, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bio for Roland Bacon

Hi Wgullyn, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Roland_Bacon The page I created is the exact English translation of a similar page in the French wikipedia https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Bacon (already validated since a few years) and then I do not understand why it cannot be published in the English version. Are rules different from a country to the other ? it should not be if wikipedia want to be objective. Thanks to reconsider the publication, or at least provide detail comments why it cannot be published. RolandBacon (talk) 13:56, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RolandBacon: per our autobiography guideline, "Editing a biography about yourself is acceptable only if you are removing unambiguous vandalism or clear-cut and serious violations of our biography of living persons policy." Wgullyn // talk // contribs 14:12, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Appeal to latest verdict

Hello there, I’m talking in regards to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Intelligence_and_Reconnaissance_(Egypt)

Basically, I was adding real content and did provide the citation that proves it, and supports it! The citation is in Arabic, as it’s my native language and the page is about an Arabic country! There is one person keeps reverting back all the changes, even when I add the right citation that supports my edits, anyone who speaks Arabic can confirm the liability of the information! Now it’s protected with deprecated information! What can I do, to update it with latest one? Pomrowik (talk) 18:23, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Pomrowik: No. It is protected because you are creating sockpuppets to edit it. You are blocked from editing and are not allowed to edit with any account. >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 18:27, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing pings

Hi. Just to let you know for future reference that trying to add a ping after you've already signed a post like you did here won't work. The user is only notified if you include the ping when posting a signed comment. See Help:Fixing failed pings for an explanation. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:45, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Cordless Larry: thanks for letting me know! >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 23:01, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 20:11:13, 13 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Milesthemilos


re: rejection of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Como_Congregational_Church

I agree the external references for this building are sparse, but it is already listed as an example of a prominent architect's work in wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Sumner_Sedgwick

Are we certain that filling out this broken link with a photo and some context is not worthwhile?

I will look for more extensive references as well.

Thanks, -m

Milesthemilos (talk) 20:11, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Milesthemilos: it doesn't seem like the building is very notable. If it were on the National Register of Historic Places, like the rest of that architect's buildings with articles, then it would be notable. Unless you can find some more reliable sources for the draft, I don't think it'll be accepted. Cheers, >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 20:40, 13 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for your help. I really appreciate it. Back Bay Barry (talk) 00:54, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Autobiography

Hello, Wgullyn,

I saw you write on an editor's page that "Autobiographies are not allowed." But if you read Wikipedia:Autobiography that you referred to, you'd see that they are allowed they are just "strongly discouraged" because of the difficulty of editing with a conflict-of-interest. Please read over the policy pages that you refer editors to, especially new editors, so you don't give contradictory information. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 04:20, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GSM Perry Mason

Hello, Wgullyn, I resubmitted my article https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Alan_G._Mason. The reason you denied my post about GSM Perry Mason, is because there 2 sources, I have added 2 more so there are 4 sources for my article. The sources I used are articles from the Household Division and by the Major Generals and soldiers that knew Perry at the time. GSM Mason had served under Her Majesty the Queen as Garrison Sergeant Major of London District from 1987 to 2002. There were a lot of videos about him, but they couldn't be added to my draft. if you are not happy with my article, you can contact the Household Division London District. But if there is anything wrong with my article, you can reply to it when you get to my message.

Sincerely Memphis8370 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Memphis8370 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Memphis8370: that's better than it was, however it will still take some improvement before the article is likely to be accepted. You have a couple duplicate references, so there are actually only 5 sources total, one of which is a Youtube link. The biography section only has one reference and the personal life section doesn't have any. In addition, the lead of the draft still says, "... is a former", which implies they are still living. >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 20:29, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Svalluru

Hi I see that you mentioned to give you 4 sources of references https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tarigopula_Narayana. My bad that when I submitted second time I selected wrong option. This is about my grand father. There are no online mentions about his name. I found only one. We have some photos of news paper articles about him and his certificate about guiness world records. Can you let me know what I can do ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Svalluru81 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Svalluru81: the key to your sources is reliability and verifiability. If you can find those newspaper articles online, then they could be considered reliable, but if you have the only copies of the articles it's impossible for other editors to verify the claims in the draft. In addition, we have a notability guideline for artists. If you can't find any online mentions, it's possible that they are not notable enough to warrant an article. Cheers, >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 21:12, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can find one more google book online in which his name is mentioned. Are 2 references not okay ? Another one is Guiness world records certificate which doesn't have online link, but you can check with them if you need. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Svalluru81 (talk • contribs) 22:26, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Svalluru81 unfortunately, mere mentions of a person do not count as reliable sources. Please remember that every single one of the claims made in the article need to be sourced, and mentions do not give almost any information. >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 22:32, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AFC Helper News

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

  • AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
  • The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 18:40:49, 16 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Jonknox12



Jonknox12 (talk) 18:40, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, Wgullyn, I'm somewhat new to Wikipedia editing, so I do apologize for my lack of knowledge surrounding the requirements for approval. What sources am I able to use for my page on Denise Park? I've used her bio published by the University of Texas at Dallas, the "About the Study" page maintained and published by the University of Texas at Dallas, and the "History" tab for the Center for Vital Longevity maintained and published by the University of Texas at Dallas. What about these sources are unreliable? I figured since they are all maintained by a state university, these should be fairly reliable for information. What are my options, here?


Jonknox12 (talk) 18:40, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Jonknox12! Those sources aren't unreliable on their own, but it's the fact that they are not independent of the subject. The reason I declined the draft is that you didn't add any new sources since it was submitted the last time. Judging by the number of citations they have on Google Scholar, they are definitely notable, but the draft needs more independent citations. After a quick search, I've found some articles that would be acceptable to use as sources: [1][2][3] >>> Wgullyn.talk(); 18:48, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you, Wgullyn. I'll see what I can do with them.


Jonknox12 (talk) 18:51, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Lukáš Černohorský

References being malformed is not a valid reason for declination, per WP:AFCSTANDARDS, especially when the subject is clearly notable. Just an FYI, keep up the good work otherwise Curbon7 (talk) 06:41, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Denise Park

Hello, Ingenuity,

A while ago, you helped me with my draft for Denise Park, a researcher at The University of Texas at Dallas. Since then, I have updated my sources to (hopefully) be compliant with Wikipedia's guidelines, and I have added a stub template to show that the draft is not yet encyclopedic. I was wondering if there was any further action I needed to take to get this draft approved, or if it should be ready as is, pending further contributions.

Thank you, Jonknox12 (talk) 17:45, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonknox12: The main problem is, in your words, "the draft is not yet encyclopedic". If it's going to be accepted, it needs to be encyclopedic. From the quick search I did the last time you asked for help, there are definitely quite a few reliable sources. Right now the draft is a single sentence which does not show notability. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 18:03, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again,

Right, but there are several stubs out there that are not encyclopedic, with a single sentence. Do you expect a multi-paragraph entry into this person? I can certainly do that. However, that would take a while for the reviewers to review, and it would be most beneficial to me to have something published and expand it later. Is the issue that the entry is too short, or that the entry I have does not show notability? Also, "A stub is an article deemed too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject." Since my draft is a stub now, this should be fine according to Wikipedia:Stub.

Best, Jonknox12 (talk) 18:09, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonknox12: stubs are fine as long as they prove notability. I'll go over the sentence:
  • "head of the Aging Mind Lab" it doesn't describe what this is -- it could be a notable organization, but maybe it isn't
  • "the Principal Investigator of the Dallas Lifespan Brain Study" again, readers wouldn't know if this is notable or not unless they research it on their own
  • "Distinguished University Chair of the School and Behavioral and Brain Sciences at The University of Texas at Dallas." according to WP:NACADEMIC this is notable.
Basically, expand on the current content to prove it is notable. Even just a few more sentences would make it much better. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 18:34, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you can get, say, a paragraph of content, supported by a few more reliable sources, I'd be happy to accept it. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 18:37, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Ingenuity,

I'll make those changes and get back to you. I appreciate your willingness to help me out; I can't express how frustrating this has been recently.

Best, Jonknox12 (talk) 18:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ingenuity,

I've made changes that will (hopefully) add some notability to the stub. If you could review it, though, and see if anything needs to be changed, I'll go through and add changes.

Best, Jonknox12 (talk) 18:54, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonknox12: I've accepted the article, seeing as they are definitely notable. It does still need some work -- right now almost the entirety of it is based on their work, not the subject. If you could find some more information on their career/life/etc, that would be great. Cheers, >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 19:00, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

I'll be sure to work on that!

Best, Jonknox12 (talk) 19:01, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Uwe Hochgeschurtz

Please double-check the submission of Draft:Uwe Hochgeschurtz. By now, I have added three references to FAZ, Handelsblatt and Manager Magazin, which are the most important German newspapers. Opel (formerly part of the GM group) is one of the highest ranking German car manufacturers, and thus its CEO is relevant without any doubt. This is a clear case from my point of view. See also de:Uwe Hochgeschurtz. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 05:27, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@NearEMPTiness: this is a pretty hard submission to accept, mainly because most of the sources are in German so it's difficult to assess the reliability/verifiability of those sources. I'll trust your judgement on this and accept the article. You do have well over 20000 edits, so you can move pages to the mainspace yourself if you would like. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 12:02, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I will do so. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 18:20, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unacceptable User Page Content

Hi, I recently added some content on the Vacuum cleaner page which you have removed. I inserted an external link to the relevant page of the Science Museum Collections which provided a picture of an early model of vacuum cleaner which was referenced in the article. This content is "peer-reviewed" by the Science Museum curator staff and provides some additional factual material to the article. Please explain why this is not acceptable? --Cnotrees (talk) 18:28, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Cnotrees: could you point out which diff you are talking about? I've checked your recent contributions and I haven't reverted any of your edits. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 20:51, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for the comments on the Xerox 2700 page. Rather than deleting content I'm offering the original material I have to the computer history museum.Ruston7 (talk) 21:51, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 22:40:10, 24 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Zhianajoon


My article entitled Ramiar Refaei has been rejected. No clear explanation given by the reviewer, Or the defects are not highlighted, please help me to improve it. Thank you,

Zhianajoon (talk) 22:40, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Zhianajoon: there are multiple issues with the draft. First, it appears to be an article about you. Please see Wikipedia:Autobiography -- autobiographies are an example of a conflict of interest and are strongly discouraged. In addition, you submitted a subpage of User:Ramiar Refaei's userpage. As for the draft itself, it does not appear to meet our notability guidelines. As a general rule of thumb, economists, scientists, etc. should have at least a couple papers with 100+ citations, but the subject only has around 100 total. If it were to be accepted, it would also need independent sources -- right now none of the sources are considered reliable, as they are all profiles/papers they have written. Cheers, >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 22:51, 24 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 16:45:11, 25 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya


Am pavan acharya acted in more than 13 serials and films I need an article can you connect me to article space even I have given my draft to review but declined I don't have reliable sources so plz help me to article

Thank you Regards Urs pavan acharya Film actor and Telivesion actor Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya (talk) 16:45, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Pavan actor TV industry pavan acharya: if the article is to be accepted, it will need independent and reliable sources. If you can't find any, it is likely that the subject is not notable enough to warrant an article. I looked at the IMDb page you linked in the draft, and it doesn't appear that there are many major roles. In addition, your username suggests that you are writing an article about yourself. Please see Wikipedia:Autobiography -- autobiographies are a conflict of interest and are strongly discouraged. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 17:20, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Signature style question

Hi, I really liked your signature style. I like the programming theme it has. But I needed some Wikipedia policy advice. I copy-pasted your signature and placed my links for user-page and talk-page but I'm not sure if that comes under WP:SIGFORGE. Can you advice me on the subject? Extorc (talk) 16:56, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Extorc! I think that as long as you change it a little bit (the bg color and/or the text colors) it's fine. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 17:24, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sure i will change it a little bit. Extorc (talk) 17:35, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Extorc I noticed that the link to your user page links to "Extorc", when it should link to "User:Extorc". >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 18:16, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh Thanks, the correction has been made. >>> Extorc.talk(); 18:19, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
BTW, your .talk(); link isnt working properly even though it works for me , as far as what i am seeing here. >>> Extorc.talk(); 18:22, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

request

hello. Can you redo this? It was removed from the article for unknown reasons. 89.219.165.93 (talk) 23:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I'm not sure why someone removed that, I think it was a mistake given they did not mention it in their edit summary. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 23:51, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Ghost of Abraham Lincoln (photograph)

Hello! Your submission of Ghost of Abraham Lincoln (photograph) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Flibirigit (talk) 23:33, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I made my draft out of Wikipedia Information. I tried citing it but appears appears as a red link.

Ok,So that's the problem — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theavengerssalacia (talk • contribs) 17:52, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Theavengerssalacia -- other Wikipedia articles should not be used as references, as this creates a circular link. In addition, there's already a pretty in-depth article about her family at British_royal_family. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 17:55, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Declining is for tumpoil

Re: Lonnie Randall, page

YouTubers normally aren't cited in the local/state chamber of commerce and the "who is your first friend" doctrine doesn't apply here as the subject is shy and doesn't want publicity but a minimal level of acknowledgement is deserved regardless.

The Creator

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