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== Some proposed changes ==

Hi!

I would like to request changes under the Accreditation section:

1) Can this section be deleted:

"The Swiss quality label for non-degree, further education institutions EduQua has certified Geneva Business School.[3] According to EduQua, the label of certification which bears its name is "intended for all training institutions active in the fields of continuing education and basic training of adults, as well as the continuing education of unemployed persons."[4] The validity of EduQua certification, which is the responsibility of independent certification bodies, was granted to the Geneva Business School on 3 March 2015, and as valid until 2 March 2021."

Reason for request: Inaccurate information, Irrelevant information

Can it be replaced by the following:

Geneva Business School is also a member of the Swiss quality label for further education institutions (EduQua), a Swiss national quality assurance body and the “premier quality assurance body accreditation scheme for continuing education”[1][2]

2) Can this section be deleted:

"In 2015, GBS claimed that it had obtained Geneva cantonal authorizations to operate in 2001 and in 2002. This statement is no longer on the school's website. [2]"

Reason: Unsourced information, Inaccurate information, Irrelevant information. The link just leads to the regular GBS page.

3) Can this section be deleted:

"Despite IACBE acreditation, the United States Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) does not note GBS as accredited by any US government-recognized Accrediting Organization.[6]"

Reason: Inaccurate information, Irrelevant Information. Geneva Business School is accredited by the International Accreditation Council for Business Education (IACBE) which is in turn recognized by the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA)[3] [4]

Can it be replaced by:

Geneva Business School is accredited by the International Accreditation Council for Business Education (IACBE) which is in turn recognized by the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA), and by the Association of Accredited Schools of Business International (AASBI).[5] [6]

4) Can this section be deleted:

"In Russia, Geneva Business School is not recognized as a higher education institution by the Federal Service for Supervision in Education and Science (National Information Center on Academic Recognition and Mobility from the Ministry of Education and Science of the Russian Federation)."

Reason: Inaccurate information, Irrelevant information.

5) Can this section be deleted:

"According to the IACBE, "The Geneva Business School has received specialized accreditation for its business programs through the International Accreditation Council for Business Education (IACBE).""

Reason: Intentionally misleading from the editor. GBS is fully accredited by the IACBE and the use of the word "specialized" is meant to diminish the impact of the accreditation.

6) In addition, can the following be added to the accreditation section:

“Geneva Business School is a QUALIFI Approved Center[7]. QUALIFI is a UK Awarding Organization recognized by three major UK regulating bodies, Ofqual, the CCEA and QiW[8]. This qualification allows GBS to offer its students degree programs from the University of Northampton[9].

GBS is registered on the Swiss Private School Register[10] and is a member of the Swiss Federation of Private Schools[11]. Finally, Geneva Business School is a member of the Swiss Association of Private Institutions of Higher Education (SAPIHE)[12].”

7) In addition, I would like to voice concern over the partiality of the contributor DuncanBCS. This user has a history of making changes to the GBS page that seem to purposely aim to place the institution in a negative light. This user's editing history also shows a pattern of targeting private business schools and making changes to the accreditation sections of their page[13]. Other private schools have also voiced concern about this contributor's partiality with regards to private business schools, as evidenced by this quote on the Swiss Business School talk page: "Regardless of the accreditation position, your edits have an overly negative tone and seem to come off a biased opinion. The edits discredit nearly every single private institution in Switzerland. It puts everything out of context and leaves no room for private institutions, which do add value to the educational landscape." [14]

While I respect and appreciate the important contributions DuncanBCS has made to many other Wikipedia pages, my concern is that this user is not impartial when making changes to the pages of business schools. I am not sure how best to proceed here, but I would like to request the assistance and perspective of another editor with this matter.

Thanks so much! Also, thank you Spintendo for all your helpful feedback.

All the best, Chair.table785 (talk) 13:05, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_quality_label_for_further_education_institutions
  2. ^ https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-rW0oCYjm8IOWNzbzJreG5RcFNnS0ZrbmVwbXNPQXJ2cTQ4/view?usp=sharing
  3. ^ http://iacbe.org/memberpdf/GenevaBusinessSchool.pdf
  4. ^ https://www.chea.org/2018-2019-directory-chea-recognized-organizations-pdf
  5. ^ http://iacbe.org/memberpdf/GenevaBusinessSchool.pdf
  6. ^ https://www.chea.org/2018-2019-directory-chea-recognized-organizations-pdf
  7. ^ https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-rW0oCYjm8IaFhNdjF2QWU1VUNCeF82eF9jVUEzMkVlNnFN
  8. ^ https://qualifi.net/ofqual-recognition/
  9. ^ https://gbsge.com/accreditations/
  10. ^ https://www.swissprivateschoolregister.com/index.php?id=13&L=2
  11. ^ http://www.swiss-schools.ch/en/vsp-mitglieder
  12. ^ https://www.asipes.ch/geneva-business-school
  13. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/DuncanBCS
  14. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:SBS_Swiss_Business_School

Reply 16-AUG-2018

   Clarification needed  

  • It's unclear whether the changes you've requested are additions or deletions to the article. When quoting text, please specify whether the quoted text is to be removed or added to the article by stating Please add the following or Please delete the following, taking care to indicate the locations in the text for both instances. Another suggestion would be to number the requested edits, so that they are easily discerned within your post. When ready to proceed, please alter the edit request template's answer parameter to read from ans=yes to ans=no. Thank you!  spintendo  22:12, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 17-AUG-2018

 Unable to review edit request

Thank you for labeling the directions as requested. Unfortunately, your edit request still cannot be reviewed because the provided references are not formatted correctly.[a] The citation system used in the edit request ought to resemble whichever citation system is predominantly used by the article, per WP:CITEVAR. This would not normally be a problem in a request of a smaller size, whereas larger requests would be expected to provide this information. Note the example below:

☒N INCORRECT[b]

The sun is pretty big.
https://www.abcnews.com

The moon is not so big.
http://www.newssource.com

The sun is also quite hot.
http://www.somewebsite.com

In the example above there are three URL's provided with the claim statements, but these URL's have not been placed using the citation system predominantly used by the Geneva Business School article, which currently is the Cite example system. Using this system, the WikiFormatted text of the citations would resemble the items shown below:

checkY CORRECT

WikiFormatted text:

The sun is pretty big,<ref>{{cite book|last1=Sjöblad|first1=Tristan|title=The Sun|url=http://www.thesun.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2018|page=1}}</ref> but the moon is not so big.<ref>{{cite journal|last1=Duvalier|first1=Gabrielle|title=Size of the Moon|journal=Scientific American|url=http://www.newssource.com|date=2018|page=1}}</ref> The sun is also quite hot.<ref>{{cite book|last1=Uemura|first1=Shu|title=The Sun's Heat|url=http://www.somewebsite.com|publisher=Academic Press|date=2018|page=1}}</ref>


Which would display in the article like this:

The sun is pretty big,[1] but the moon is not so big.[2] The sun is also quite hot.[3]

References

  1. ^ Sjöblad, Tristan. The Sun. Academic Press, 2018, p. 1.
  2. ^ Duvalier, Gabrielle. "Size of the Moon", Scientific American, 51(78):46.
  3. ^ Uemura, Shū. The Sun's Heat. Academic Press, 2018, p. 2.

In the example above the links have been formatted to show author, source name, date, etc., all information which is lost when only the links are provided. As I indicated above, since Wikipedia is a volunteer project, larger edit requests such yours are generally expected to have this formatting done before the request is submitted for review.

Kindly rewrite your edit request so that it aligns more with the second example above, and feel free to re-submit that edit request at your earliest convenience. If you have any questions about this formatting please don't hesitate to ask myself or another editor. Regards,  spintendo  17:16, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ In addition to not having the references formatted, several of the submitted references are to other Wikipedia pages. Other Wikipedia articles are not acceptable as references. (See WP:WALLEDGARDEN.)
  2. ^ Http links, also known as bare references, are acceptable to use in Wikipedia. However, an article should only use one type of system: "It is normal practice to defer to the style used by the first major contributor or adopted by the consensus of editors already working on the page, unless a change in consensus has been achieved. If the article you are editing is already using a particular citation style, you should follow it".[1] The particular, predominant citation style used by the Geneva Business School article is not bare references.

References

  1. ^ "Wikipedia:Citing sources". Wikipedia. 28 July 2018.

Reply 15-SEP-2018

I don't agree with the proposed edits, and I regret that the editor has done them without winning a consensus for the suggestions. The fact that GBS does not have accreditation as the university from the countries in which is operates, or from any of the three leading accreditation bodies, is clearly relevant. we note these accreditations on other pages and should note the absence of them. the replies above do not establish consensus for the edits you are making. Win consensus here before removing text from the article. The point about whether or not facts are negative doens't matter: what is significant is whether they are referenced. --Duncan (talk) 05:06, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Awards Section

Hi!

I was wondering if it would be possible to add an awards section to the GBS Wikipedia page, and to include the following awards within that section:

2 Palmes of Excellence from Eduniversal Business Schools Ranking [1]

75th Best Business School In The World For 2018 from CEOWORLD Magazine [2]

57th in Switzerland according to Ranking Web of Universities [3]

Let me know when you can!

As always, thanks so much for your feedback.

All the best, Chair.table785 (talk) 13:20, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "GENEVA BUSINESS SCHOOL". Eduniversal Business Schools Ranking. 2015. Retrieved Aug 31, 2018.
  2. ^ Batchelor, Megan (May 24, 2018). "Best Business Schools In The World For 2018". CEOWORLD Magazine. Retrieved Aug 31, 2018.
  3. ^ "Switzerland". Ranking Web of Universities. July 2018. Retrieved Aug 31, 2018.

I'm afraid that these award rankings use subjective and/or hidden metrics to arrive at their tally's and without going into deeper details about what the awards mean, what they measure, how they're measured and who is doing the measuring (all which would be beyond the scope of the article) there's not much that can be added here.  spintendo  16:17, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your quick reply!

All the best, Chair.table785 (talk) 18:03, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am student at Geneva Business School and it's a well known fact that the school is paying for these fake ranking to then claim : Geneva Business School is ranked 57th out of the World’s top 100 business schools, and the 2nd top business school in Switzerland.
I am not familiar with Wikipedia rules, but I hope these idiotic claims will be removed from this page. 2001:1713:EA77:C070:FD34:CDB0:F302:22FD (talk) 10:37, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

misleading content / advertising >> updates

This is an education business.

This topic is sensitive and statements can mislead future students. This page needs to be worked on with sensitivity and responsibly in regards to the complexity of the situation - and the fact that Wikipedia should be a correct source of information for future students.

Help please from other contributors please. EstuBcn (talk) 19:30, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Spintendo advice?

This article was littered with a lot of references which are in effect paid-for channels that all recycle the same content provided by the business itself. I've cleaned this up and hope the message arrived somewhere. -- JohnSpambo (talk) 15:24, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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