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Referring To The USS Ship As a Female Object Is Incorrect

It seems to be not only incorrect, but quite insulting to females as much as it is to males. It sounds more like something a "redneck" will be calling his car rather than out of a formal encyclopedia article.We aren't 13th century pirates - We have progressed from such things, and it is time to move on. There is no need for me to explain with my own words why it is incorrect, simply take a look at this: http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2010/12/ships.html

I'm new. I have noticed there is a thread regarding the issue, but I am not sure how I'm supposed to join the conversation, so I am creating a new one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JustForNow1 (talkcontribs) 23:13, 14 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As noted above, Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Military_history#Pronouns says that we can use either the "she/her" or the "it/its" format. If you're gonna petition for that to be changed, it would have to be at the milmos page itself, and it would require widespread support from the community to implement the changes. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:23, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, two very famous redneck characters in The Dukes of Hazzard usually referred to their car, the General Lee, as a "he". I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they were criticized for not using the correct "she" at some time during the show's run, probably by Northerners. :) - BilCat (talk) 02:42, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have always known our ship and allies ships as a She, or her. and enemy combat ship as its. all this Pc is going to bloody far. relax and take a chill pill. same go for cars. Like the 1969 Shelby Mustang GT 500 is known as Eleanor. -Major Jared29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MajorJared29 (talkcontribs) 14:26, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Periods

Any reason why there are spaces after the periods in the name of the president but none for the ship? I know these are two different articles written by two different groups of editors but it does look inconsistent as a whole. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.225.52 (talk) 17:02, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The ship is titled with "H.W." because that's how the name is spelled by the US Navy, and is the usual way that periods in names in the US are written. The biography article uses "H. W." because a small group of users who prefer that style were able to garner support and forced all biography articles to use that style, regardless.of whether that style is used in the person's home country or not. Fortunately, they have not been able to force articles on subjects named after people to use their preferred style yet, but I'm sure they will keep trying until they succeed. - BilCat (talk) 23:46, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The tail wagging the dog... - wolf 02:12, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Callsign

First paragraph third sentence states that the USS George H. W. Bush's callsign is Avenger. That is not correct according to the info block. The callsign is NGHW. Avenger is the nickname. Not sure how to edit when there are links in the sentence or I would have fixed it.