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Yasin Malik Didn't accept that he killed those Airforce people.
Tim Sebastian and talk between Yasin Malik puts no admission by Yasin Malik that he or JKLF has killed those people. But Yasin Malik challenged the trial of the court has not begun yet. Bilalahmadj (talk) 15:19, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
He pleaded guilty of 1990 killing of IAF officers and 2017 J&K terror funding case in Delhi High court on 11th May 2022. Kunal Mystry (talk) 05:11, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
Improve this article
Could the author please make this article a bit more readable? You could maybe begin by splitting the sentence into paragraphs. Also there appears to be a lot of un-verified matter. Nitin (talk) 07:40, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Clean up
This article needs a lot of clean up, will try to work on it today --sarvajna (talk) 05:10, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- The section where it is mentioned that Yasin Malik met with Pakistani Prime Minister, it is necessary to mention that he met with late PM Manmohan Singh ji (India) as well.
- Ref: https://www.timesnownews.com/videos/times-now/india/kashmiri-files-congress-stand-sparks-controversy-manmohan-singhs-picture-with-yasin-malik-video-90197251 115.114.136.244 (talk) 10:54, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Imprisonment, Election rigging
@Kautilya3: Why are you removing sourced information that they were imprisoned without a formal charge, court appearance or a trial? Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 20:39, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- Did I? I am sorry. If I did, it wasn't intentional. You can put it back. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:48, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- I did a search and couldn't find these words either inserted or deleted. I have no idea.
- I did delete the allegation that Delhi rigged the elections. I don't know if it did. And this source doesn't seem reliable for such a claim. Kashmir had its own Election Commission under the autonomy deal, and NC rigged every election up till 1977. The 1977 and 1983 elections were ok, but in 1987 things went back to the old ways. Bose says that NC rigs elections routinely even now, even for little things like local trading councils. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:05, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- Regarding, Your revert with summary this is not WP:HISTRS.
- No, it does not have to be WP:HISTRS, we have discussed it many times. WP:HISTRS is an essay and does not take precedence over WP:RS which is a policy. You can replace the source with a WP:HISTRS source if it supports this content but you cannot remove reliably sourced content saying that it is not according to your favorite essay. That source specifically says that Rajiv's government was involved in rigging 1987 election, you need to provide the proper context, even if all other elections were rigged but 1987 rigging is considered to have huge impact on Malik's political life. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 21:11, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- This is not an RS either. News reports are only reliable for news, not history. People remember history in their own ways. We can't rely on it unless there is scholarly analysis.
- The Kashmir Life article, which is more thoroughly researched, tells you quite clearly what NC did, blow by blow.
- It is precisely because 1987 elections are so important that we have to use proper sources. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:21, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- That news report quotes Prem Shankar Jha as saying that Delhi rigged elections. But Jha says that NC did here. I will double check why I cited that report at all. It doesn't seem reliable at all. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
- This is getting curioser and curioser. In the actual interview, which is reproduced on Nabi's own blog site,[1] Jha says "
The elections were rigged not by the Government of India, but by the successive state governments.
" The statement Nabi puts in quote marks in his article is part synthesis and part fabrication. The News International has a yet another variant: "The elections were rigged not only by the government of India, but also by the successive state governments." I guess we have to hand it to the News International's efficiency. It can achieve the needed distortion by adding just two words! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:08, 3 October 2016 (UTC)- Ok, when it was according to your POV then it was an RS, now when we found that it says something which is not according to your POV then its not RS anymore. I do no think we can make things work like that and I am not going to take your word on this. Moreover, its not what Jha says, its what that source says and I have no doubt that its an RS. Look, the text I added which is sourced as well does not say that Government of India solely did the rigging, it says that federal government facilitated the rigging and that is also confirmed by some other sources and I am adding one of those in the article so we basically take Nabi and Jha out of equation here. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 13:56, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
- This is getting curioser and curioser. In the actual interview, which is reproduced on Nabi's own blog site,[1] Jha says "
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More changes
I have made few more changes:
- The bit about spearheading militancy is not necessarily true that it was spearheaded by JKLF, militancy in Kashmir is there since 1947 but JKLF was not. Moreover, this is an undue bit as well.
- causing disturbances is kind of an example of POV language and OR to be frank.
- The source is unclear and vague about which group disrupted the match, if there is a more clearer source which says that JKLF disrupted the match then you are welcome to add it back, this article is not about JKLF anyway.
- Dropped Pakistan-administered from Azad Kashmir as other Kashmir is not written in the same term, also its not needed.
Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 15:43, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
- There was no armed militancy in Kashmir before 1987.
- Saima Bhat's article says they organised a protest for Maqbool Bhat's death anniversary, which then burnt a bus. That is "causing disturbances" in my book.
- The source says it was Tala Party. JKLF wasn't in the play yet before 1987.
- "Pakistan-administered" is quite the key.
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1990 IAF personnel killing case
Yasin Malik's trial resumes in Jammu
After a delay of almost 3 decades, the trial of Yasin Malik in 1990 Indian Air Force personnel killing case resumed on Wednesday at the TADA court in Jammu
A TADA court on September 7 had issued non-bailable warrants against Yasin Malik and others allegedly involved the killing of four Indian Air Force (IAF) personnel inKashmir in 1990.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/yasin-malik-not-only-killed-my-husband-but-ruined-us-slain-iaf-officer-s-wife/story-kfX3CkGXIVDXlq3NOJS6ML.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rameshaha (talk • contribs) 07:18, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
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I want to suggest changes in Twitter profile of Yasin Malik. Link to his official Twitter account is https://mobile.twitter.com/Da_Influenzer Thehoodhero (talk) 21:09, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: Account is not verified, we would need reliable sources naming that as his account. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:27, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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Karan Karankapadiya (talk) 15:39, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:47, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
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2409:4050:DBB:4913:9FF:9327:203A:B9DF (talk) 17:20, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Separation of Kashmir from only India not from both
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 17:23, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Last line of intro
The last line of the intro mentions that the subject has renounced violence and has adopted peaceful methods for his cause. Being in the intro of the article mandatorily means that such claims have to be supported. Please add a citation.Intensearistocrat (talk) 12:23, 18 March 2022 (UTC)wiki user
Infobox
Shall we change the infobox on the page from Infobox Officeholder to Infobox Criminal so that we can add the Criminal Status, Charges, Conviction considering he is now a convict and waiting to receive sentencing on 25 May.
This revert is the context. >>> Extorc.talk 17:55, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Changed it to Infobox person. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:00, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Infobox criminal is to be used if the criminality is the main notability, not otherwise. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 18:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- What is the main notability here? >>> Extorc.talk 18:02, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- I would say that this Secessionism/ Militancy/ Terrorism is the main notability here. >>> Extorc.talk 18:03, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
He got training from Pakistan occupied Kashmir and not from Pakistan administrative Kashmir, please make correction
He got training from Pakistan occupied Kashmir and not from Pakistan administrative Kashmir, please make correction 2402:E280:3E19:F51:C5AB:1531:CEFE:35EC (talk) 20:13, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Stop glorifying Terrorist‘S
Stop glorifying Terrorist & their actions. This Wikipedia page is full of lies & false information. Well I think Wiki’s is funded by Separatist’s group so no wonder all praise for Terrorist like Yasin Malik 😡 65.95.200.220 (talk) 22:56, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
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