- Davide Locatelli (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)
Davide Locatelli's page was in draft for two months and was subsequently approved for publication. After a while it was questioned and a debate with conflicting opinions opened up. I believe that the cancellation of the page is not justifiable, as it has come to a unanimous opinion. I also reiterate my opinion: in Italy Davide Locatelli is an established pianist, with the Sony label. Searching on Google (especially in the Italian results), the main Italian newspapers have written and are writing about him. He is doing a lot of things in America too. I, being the author of the page, am fully available to edit the content, add other sources that make the element more relevant, but I would like the deletion of the page to be restored. Thank you - Diegoferralis (talk) 09:21, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- We'll not going to undelete it so that you can then maybe add more sources. Present your sources first - bearing in mind the advice at WP:THREE - and we'll consider it. —Cryptic 10:12, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your answer @Cryptic. Should I attach the sources here, in this discussion? Diegoferralis (talk) 22:06, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, please, or ideally in a draft.—S Marshall T/C 22:52, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok, can you confirm that I can recreate the page: "Draft: Davide Locatelli", so I can directly update the page with the new sources? Thanks Diegoferralis (talk) 09:28, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, that's in order.—S Marshall T/C 12:23, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- In the meantime, I am attaching here the latest articles, from the most important newspapers, concerning the artist, so as to be able to discuss his possible presence on Wikipedia.
- https://www.ilgiorno.it/spettacoli/davide-locatelli-1.6679710
- https://themillennial.it/cultura/musica/davide-locatelli-imagine-pianoforte-consolato-ucraina/
- https://tg24.sky.it/spettacolo/musica/2022/03/02/pianista-davide-locatelli-imagine-consolato-ucraina-milano-video
- https://www.allmusicitalia.it/news/inno-milan-davide-locatelli-pioli-is-on-fire.html Diegoferralis (talk) 09:41, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Cryptic Can I have an opinion on these sources that I have attached? Thanks Diegoferralis (talk) 09:54, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Personally I would say the sources look acceptable and I'm tentatively minded to permit a brief, neutrally worded article about Mr Locatelli. I'm not sure why it was deleted from it.wiki and I would just like to understand that.—S Marshall T/C 20:38, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @S Marshall Thanks for your reply. I would like to understand it too :) I believe that on wikipedia Italy the page has been created and deleted several times over the years by different users, and this has probably affected. He is an artist who has published several discs, has made multiple appearances on TV in important programs, is quoted on many sources in important newspapers, collaborates with equally important artists. I just can't understand what doesn't allow the artist to stay on wikipedia. Diegoferralis (talk) 23:31, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Star Mississippi Could I have your other opinion regarding the sources I have attached and the opinion of @S Marshall? Beyond the dispute over the closed page, can it change your opinion on whether this page can be on Wikipedia? Thanks Diegoferralis (talk) 17:09, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I prefer to remain neutral on any restoration since I closed the AfD. I will say that this appears to be a very good source. My Italian isn't great so it's based on an assist from google translate. Creating a draft might be the easiest solution here, which I believe was what @S Marshall was also suggesting. Star Mississippi 19:37, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Draft:Davide Locatelli This is the page published in draft, I await your opinions on it. Thanks @S Marshall@Star Mississippi Diegoferralis (talk) 01:35, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Can I understand what are the steps to follow now? Is the page eligible or not? Do we have to wait for other opinions or can proceed to make the page public? Thanks Diegoferralis (talk) 07:38, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Someone will close the discussion and may or may not weigh in on the draft. AfC and DRV tend to be different groups of editors but the closing admin might decide to make a decision on both simultaneously. Star Mississippi 13:19, 24 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- OK thanks. Greeting Diegoferralis (talk) 09:22, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- While creating it and adding references in Draft may have been appropriate, and is somethig I have no quarrel with, submitting it for review is akin to asking the other parent. It feels like an attempt to game the system, and I find it not to my taste. Neither accepting it there nor declining it there is useful since it short circuits this established review system. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 19:25, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Maybe you haven't followed the story. The page had already been in draft for 2 months, was approved, and it was subsequently decided to delete it. I opened the deletation review here because in my opinion there was no unanimity for the cancellation. The "important" sources were already on the page, but they were probably not analyzed correctly. The same user who deleted the page here says the sources look ok. Here the users asked to put the page in draft, to get an opinion on the matter. So there is no attempt "to game the system", of any kind. Diegoferralis (talk) 08:22, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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