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Characters in the Realm of the Elderlings

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A totally unreferenced list that fails WP:NLIST (and as an article, obviously fails WP:GNG), the main article for the series (world? Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Realm of the Elderlings) was deleted over 10 years ago (and those were the times WP:FANCRUFT was not challenged as much as today...). We do have articles for subseries (The Farseer Trilogy and latter four more series: Liveship Traders Trilogy, The Tawny Man Trilogy, while The Rain Wild Chronicles and Fitz and the Fool Trilogy are just redirects). Frankly, the best option might be to (re)create the entry for the metaseries (The Realm of the Elderlings), IF it can be shown to be encyclopedic. Another might be to add some content about characters to the articles on individual series, for some reason The Farseer Trilogy is GA while simultaneously missing a section about characters (an oversight in other articles, perhaps related to the existence of the list currently discussed here; ping editors who worked on said recent GA: User:David Fuchs, User:Olivaw-Daneel). PS. Full disclaimer: I recently redirected unreferenced Places in the Realm of the Elderlings to the The Realm of the Elderlings, where I then restored a redirect too. I'll also ping User:Pburka and User:Kvng who may be interested in this topic but I am not sure if they watchlist this article of delsort lists. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:26, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and Literature. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:26, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:26, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. GAs do not require a character list. See MOS:CHARACTERS: "Most articles do not need this section. Instead, a finely crafted plot summary is used to introduce the characters to the reader." I doubt if The Farseer Trilogy would benefit from such a section, as it has just one primary character. On the other hand the Liveship Traders has 7–8 POVs, so I can see how a character glossary would help there. In any case, I don't think there's enough sourcing to support Characters in the Realm of the Elderlings and would redirect it (possibly to Robin Hobb bibliography § The Realm of the Elderlings). Olivaw-Daneel (talk) 06:17, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Olivaw-Daneel We are a bit off topic here, but I'd suggest adding a note to Farseer that there is just one major character somewhere. Frankly, even a short section on characters saying so, with some analysis of the main character, would be good there (if sources exist). If I was a GA reviwer I'd likely make such a request. Just saying. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:03, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/Keep. I support @Piotrus's proposed option to "(re)create the entry for the metaseries (The Realm of the Elderlings)," possibly even as a stub, and merging this article into it. However, if that does not happen, I would support keeping this article, despite the numerous flaws that are accurately described above. See meta:Inclusionism#Arguments against deletion. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 12:14, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - The current article fails both GNG and LISTN. It can maybe be salvaged to merge, but that can be decided at a late time. TTN (talk) 13:01, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]