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Anglo-Vietnamese conflict (1808)

I have the Lamb book and the referenced pages don't cover the subjects they're referenced to - not even the same year. Are you sure the references are correct? Acroterion (talk) 20:51, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Please respond to this, the references, and the entire article, are in doubt. Acroterion (talk) 12:06, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

User:Acroterion - also, page 508 does not exist in either volume of Crawfurd's Journal of an Embassy from the Governor-General of India to the Courts of Siam and Cochin China: Exhibiting a View of the Actual State of Those Kingdoms. This is not the first time that Laska666 has written their own narrative and cited whatever. 79.251.251.208 (talk) 12:38, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

I am considering bringing this up at ANI, since there is a broad range of articles that may be called into question if this is a pattern of conduct. Acroterion (talk) 12:43, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

I just rethink & admit that both Journal of an Embassy from the Governor-General of India to the Courts of Siam and Cochin China: Exhibiting a View of the Actual State of Those Kingdoms and Lamb's book are actually not good sources. The only article that should be examined is Les Anglais à Macao en 1802 by M. C. B. Maybon, accordingly, Drury's ELC expedition in Tonkin was a brief stopover attempt to open Vietnam to trade. The outcome was unsuccessful and the British fleet then moved to Portuguese Macao.

Well then, can you properly cite the material and remove whatever isn't supportable by references? Acroterion (talk) 16:23, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

So why did you cite what are clearly the wrong sources in the first places, and what assurance do we have that the present ones are correct? Why is there no mention in more accessible media about six or seven British ships destroyed? This seems like an odd omission from the well-document history of the Royal Navy. Acroterion (talk) 01:59, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

There are a truckload of soapboxing edits recently eg see South Vietnam and also the AfD on the pov fork/essay Kingdom of Vietnam that was AFDed Bumbubookworm (talk) 21:38, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

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I await your response at ANI. As other editors have noted, you've ignored ANI issues before.I will not allow this matter to drop without action. Acroterion (talk) 22:34, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Anglo-Vietnamese conflict (1808) for deletion

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Blocked from article space

Since you haven't participated at the ANI discussion or responded here, I've blocked you from article space until you constructively address the concerns of other editors about your sourcing and referencing. Acroterion (talk) 23:42, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

• I apologize for what my faults, however, I didn't respond because I Couldn't manage to do anything for Wikipedia at the beginning of fall semester. The block and following accusation of refusing to communicate or address concerns about sourcing and referencing isn't fully correct and a little bit personal regarding the editor is busy irl as usual. Laska666 (talk) 16:33, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

• • The refusing to communicate is primarily in response to previous events in which you've not communicated after your conduct was brought up at ANI. This is not the first instance. Acroterion (talk) 16:45, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Bhadravarman (Đồng Dương) moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Bhadravarman (Đồng Dương), is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Mccapra (talk) 22:28, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Everything about the founder of the Bhrgu dynasty, King Indravarman II, is listed in a Dong Duong Cham slab inscription C. 66, written in Sanskrit. It was engraved in May 875 and a testimony of how widespread Mahayana Buddhism was in Champa.

Line 19:

tasmaj jajñe raja sñdhih sñ rudravarmanámá yah / tasya sutah khyátayasáh sñsahito bhadravarmavibhuh

From him was born the intelligent king Sri Rudravarman. The son of the latter was the far-famed king Sri Bhadravarman

Line 20:

sríindravarmmaviditas sünuá sri bhadravarmmanas tasya mahesvaraprabhavac campanagare nrpo bhavati

The son of Sri Bhadravarman, known as Sri Indravarman has become the king of Campa through the grace of Maheávara.

We can see freely that Indravarman was the son of Sri Bhadravarman. His mom was Maheávara. His grandpa was Rudravarman. They were builders and royals of Campadesa (nowadays Vietnam). That's the fact toldin rock indisputable.Laska666 (talk) 16:51, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Tribhuvanadevi moved to draftspace

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@Mccapra:, are you sure that these articles aren't ready for mainspace? They look like typical stubs and their notability can honestly quite easily be established by the fact that they're Cham royalty about which plenty is written in both Vietnamese and French, the issue is that the creator tends to prioritise English-language sources (see also the AfD for the "Kingdom of Vietnam" article where they dismissed multiple reliable sources for being written in Vietnamese). I'm not sure if moving them to draftspace really benefits anyone as these articles are now "invisible" to anyone and it's highly unlikely that the people working in draftspace will actually improve them there. A simple Ecosia search will find a number of sources that mention her mostly in Vietnamese, though I assume that most sources are offline.

My main argument above being that stubs aren't supposed to be assumed to not be notable unless notability cannot be established. While I personally don't write stubs I commonly find stubs that have a lot of information about them that can be expanded, simply deleting stubs because of the fact that they're stubs seems counterproductive to me. --Donald Trung (talk) 09:25, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@Donald Trung: hi the issue is primarily that they have a single source, unfortunately offline, so don’t meet our requirements. In addition the article creator has been blocked for creating hoax articles. If the draftified articles can show notability through additional referencing I’m happy to move them back to mainspace, but for the time being the suspicion is that they’re hoaxes. Mccapra (talk) 21:17, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@Mccapra:, other than "Royal Vietnamese army" I don't think that user "Laska666" has ever created an actual hoax, most of their edits seem to revolve around POV-pushing, though this seems largely limited to "Kinh history" (the history of Vietnam outside of ethnic minority history). If you want to explore what kind of hoaxes they push I'd say seeing Đại Việt as a continuous state until 1802 (not 1804 for whatever reason) and including all names prior to the Nguyễn into this category and seeing it afterwards as the "Kingdom of Vietnam", they also spread the idea that all institutions of the Nguyễn were abolished in 1885... Alright, I can see now why they're accused of being a Hoaxer, but I haven't seen them do the same with the history of Champa, in fact they've been doing largely well in the last half year or so.

That aside, people aren't really able to expand the article and add additional sources of the article is in draftspace. At least if an article is nominated for deletion people will try to improve it and look for additional sources, when an article is draftified it gets ignored and then quietly deleted by a bot. So I'd say that nominating these articles for deletion might even be a better alternative because there will be at least some eyeballs on them by people willing to investigate and verify these articles. --Donald Trung (talk) 21:41, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@Donald Trung: Well there’s nothing stopping you nominating it for deletion if you think that’s a better course of actions. Mccapra (talk) 22:14, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Mccapra, I'm not allowed to. First of all it's in draftspace which I'm not allowed to edit, second of all it wouldn't go through AfD (which I am allowed to edit) but MfD. So I can't do anything with it, there also isn't a "nominate for deletion" button here like there is at the Wikimedia Commons. -- — Donald Trung (talk) 22:18, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Ha Trung stele (Quang Tri province, dated 917 AD). The stele recorded the donation of queen Tribhuvanadevi to a local temple of Siva.

Line 4a:

sritribhuvanadevyah srih punyanani sthanam üdhakírttih syatpratimalingo devo nityam sri Indrakantesah

the chaste Tribhuvanadevi installed the image of Indrakantesa out of devotion.

A so-called "POV-pusher" is just someone who interested in history and doesn't like the downplaying of achievements of indigenous American, Asian and African societies by inserting whites...