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I do not see any problems with this page being here. What I really want if someone can add some more informaton about the key differences of principles amongst the four great imams. Dr Abul Kalam Azad

Ra'y

The term Ra'y as a principle of Islamic jurisprudence has its roots in the early debate between Muslim scholars as to the interpretation of the divine texts. The idea of the followers of Ra'y was to use reason as the basis of Islamic legal interpretation. Ra'y could be placed within the context of fiqh but it must be differentiated from usul al-fiqh, since usul al-fiqh was the attempt by Imam Shafi'i to reconcil the differences between the schools of Ra'y (reason) and Hadith (revelation). Usul al-fiqh and the following period of taqlid (imitation) virtually closed the debate between reason and revelation until the late nineteenth century utilitarian reforms of Muhammad Abduh and Rashid Rida.

see Wael Hallaq, A History of Islamic Legal Theories, (1997)

(Corbindanny 12:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Merge discussion

In my view, Fiqh (jurisprudence) and Usool al-Fiqh (principles of jurisprudence) are two separate topics and deserve their own pages. There are historically thousands of books written on each subject as distinct subjects. (Zafer Iqbal)

There is a separate page for Usul al-fiqh and one for principles of Islamic jurisprudence, these two should be merged. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polislamicist (talkcontribs) 18:53, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I actually favor deleting this page. The usul al-fiqh page already exists, plus this article has a single reference for a comment which isn't even pivotal. There's no reason to merge any of this content since it's all summarized already in the articles for usul, ijma, etc. MezzoMezzo (talk) 08:21, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
After some thought, I would like to suggest that rather than merging the content here over to Usul al-Fiqh, the content there be merged over here. This suggestion is based on Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles; specifically, the section on translation which states:
"Arabic terms should be translated into standard English wherever possible without compromising the meaning of the text."
The word "usul" in the Arabic language, plural of the word "asl", refers to foundations or principles. Translating it in this way will not compromise the understood meaning and it will add further clarity for Wikipedia readers who are not familiar with the Arabic language. MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:15, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

no kidding

Principles of Islamic jurisprudence ... is the study and critical analysis of the origins, sources, and principles upon which Islamic jurisprudence is based.

You don't say. WP:REDUNDANCYTamfang (talk) 18:03, 21 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

understanding the traditional view of al-Shafi'i

This article does a great job describing Islamic jurisprudence in it's various forms, development and important figures. However, I'm curious if there's any evidence which would support the traditional view that al-Shafi'i is responsible for founding Islamic jurisprudence? The article seems to imply that such a view is more or less a tradition that lacks an empirical base. Thank you for your time.Jakes22 (talk) 19:40, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Using Ismaili sources to debunk Sunni Usul.

No comment, not only were the Ismailis of the Fatimid Caliphate well known for their missionary works and attempts to lie about Sunnism, but claiming this is a “unbiased source” just because some guy cited it is an unbelievable joke that shows the state of Wikipedia. 2001:1970:5163:1200:0:0:0:D48B (talk) 00:11, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]