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Regarding the AFTv5 roll-out, we've reduced the sample size initially to 10,000 articles.--Eloquence * 18:25, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Erik, corrected now. Skomorokh 18:29, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to Removing of thumb size limits on big png's. Are you sure about that? bugzilla:32721 seems to suggest it will be a little further off until that's ready, at least for PNG images. Bawolff (talk) 19:39, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Correct, as per this bugzilla comment by Tim, an oversight was made, and it seems that this might not work out as expected. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:02, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes, I had missed that comment by Tim and was still working under the impression that PNGs were going to be as successful as TIFFs. Since I didn't imply that PNG support was going to land soon anyway, I shall simply correct the article for posterity rather than file a full correction. - Jarry1250 ^{[Weasel? Discuss.]} 11:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - Is this image's rotational issue caused by the bug or the uploader? OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 13:50, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      - Well, both in a sense. The "bug" is what rotated it like it is, but it was the uploader who effectively uploaded it the right way up but with instructions to rotate it clockwise by 90 degrees. Hence the confusion. - Jarry1250 ^{[Weasel? Discuss.]} 22:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't been impressed with article feedback so far. What has it accomplished? As far as ArticleFeedback version 5, I'd guess it suffers from the same problem as its predecessors: it doesn't look like it's designed to aid in making decisions. A basic rule for designing feedback surveys is that you should know 1st what use you will make of the data. So, for example, if you want to know whether you should invest in hardware that will make it easier to include images, or hardware that will make it easier to include audio you would ask questions about the use of images and audio. So far it looks like you are just asking "Do you like it?" What use can you make of that data? Smallbones (talk) 22:40, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
+1: Information is that which informs decisions, everything else is just data. ~ Ningauble (talk) 19:50, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In defence of the scheme, the purpose of the data collection to date has been primarily on testing out what forms of tool elicit what kinds of input – it is precisely "designed to aid in making decisions", just not those you might think. On another point, one of the main reasons for the development of the tool is not to harvest information but to encourage recruitment of readers. So I don't think it's helpful to judge the AFT on the testing phase thus far. Skomorokh 20:00, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I can believe that it was experiment to test a theory about soliciting feedback to achieve purposes other than surveying feedback. I can even believe the experimenters now have a better understanding of the null hypothesis. This little guinea pig went home. ~ Ningauble (talk) 20:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What's the specific gadget to counteract the new crazy diff coloring? (Green for removed, seriously?!) --Cybercobra (talk) 05:38, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- You can always overwrite it in your css. [1] --Nk (talk) 07:51, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The WYSIWYG prototype can be found at mw:Special:VisualEditorSandbox. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 09:59, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- We shall cover it in full next week :) - Jarry1250 ^{[Weasel? Discuss.]} 11:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There is a curious interwiki link on this page. Could someone remove it ? Regards, Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 01:49, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry that was me (in my comment above, i used the wrong prefix for bugzilla [I used bug, and there's a language with that code]). Bawolff (talk) 19:05, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another update on AFTv5: We're likely postponing the initial deployment to next week to do some more QA and fix some remaining known issues. Schedule updates will be visible on the Software deployments page.-Eloquence * 02:22, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]