Talk:Yemen

Rashad al-Alimi

We should make a page about Rashad al-Alimi 196.65.122.248 (talk) 14:30, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Africans in Yemen

Why are there separate demographics for Somalis in Yemen and Afro-Yemenis? I think Somalis should fall under the Afro-Yemeni group. Unknown... (talk) 15:38, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Motto of Yemen

@Vif12vf I think Allah and Rabb have different meaning. Which one is used in Yemen's motto?

Maybe you are highly fluent in Arabic. @Vif12vf Please teach me something I haven't known about those two words. Satrio.m (talk) 06:00, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm no language expert, but all sources I have ever used uses Allah as the arab word for God, regardless of which religion the source discusses. Arab christians to my knowledge also say Allah when referring to God. At no point have I come across any other terms being used except for polytheistic religions. Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 13:27, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

About the Christian, Yes because God in Islam and Christianity is the same, The God's name in Islam and Christianity is "Allah". Christianity thinks that Jesus is the Son of God, and the God here is Allah. ::Okay the source, did the source and the arab Christians you mentioned tell you about the difference between the word "Ilahi" and "Allah"? Satrio.m (talk) 00:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Even if you don't understand but keep changing it by reading another source, please give us the source telling the differences between the three. Satrio.m (talk) 00:24, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

@Satrio.m: You are now at 3 reverts. If you have a legitimate argument to make that you believe will allow editors to reach a consensus agreeing on the content you think is correct, please make that argument clearly and succinctly (preferably identifying sources that support your position) instead of baiting other editors with sarcastic comments. General Ization ^Talk 00:28, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

No need for a concensus because I'm sure many non-Arabic will intervene it saying "Allah" means God and has no difference with Ilahi as well as Rabb. Satrio.m (talk) 00:31, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Consensus is how decisions are made here. If you're unwilling to make the effort to achieve consensus, please don't edit articles. General Ization ^Talk 00:33, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Please be aware that once challenged, in the absence of a compelling argument supporting a change and the adoption of a new consensus, the existing consensus version will be the one that remains. General Ization ^Talk 00:30, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes, many non-Arabic article will tell many people who don't know Arabic that Allah means God. After that, that is, after reading the source, people will vote that Allah means God. Satrio.m (talk) 00:33, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

This is what Wikipedia cannot be used and unacceptable to be used as a reference in academic journal and books, because of this kind of people. Satrio.m (talk) 00:35, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Please give us guidance if you have it to offer, and as I said, point to – hopefully English-language – sources that address the question. Other editors are not interested in playing games with you. Please see Assume good faith as a start. General Ization ^Talk 00:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

If you don't like the policies of Wikipedia, please don't edit and you won't find yourself having conversations like this. General Ization ^Talk 00:37, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Also, settle the issue here before you start another edit war at Sudan. General Ization ^Talk 00:32, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

This is why Wikipedia cannot be used and unacceptable to be used as a reference in academic journal and books, Because of this kind of people.

Thanks guys for making Wikipedia untrusted source for Academic texts. Again thanks. Satrio.m (talk) 00:36, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

I think we need more reliable person to handle vandalism. To decide who made vandalism and who really try to correct something. I mean, those who have deep knowledge about many fields. We call them Polymath. Satrio.m (talk) 00:39, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

I invited you to "get to the point" and tell us what you know or believe you know about the subject, instead of playing a game of cat and mouse with other editors. If that's too much to ask of you, it's a shame, but it shows your motives to be something other than to help us build an encyclopedia. General Ization ^Talk 00:43, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Hope those help! Thanks :) Satrio.m (talk) 01:22, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

You said to me, "...but it shows your motives to be something other than to help us build an encyclopedia."

Yes, now facts are made by concensus, means that fact is something many people agree with, not the meaning of fact itself.

One thing to know, to solve vandalism, concensus is not the answer.

You seem to know my "other" motive. Tell me what that was.

And I'm gonna tell you your solution for fixing vandalism, YES, making concensus to determine the meaning of words. And the result is what Many people HAVE TO think of as the trusted NEW fact because it was chosen by many not-knowing-something people. Satrio.m (talk) 01:39, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

After all, I don't care what the concensus will result in.

As long as it one day become reliable for academic text and journal, though it consists of most-chosen facts, hope that help make the world better. Satrio.m (talk) 01:42, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

You seem to know my "other" motive. Tell me what that was. Again, we're not interested in playing rhetorical games with you. I don't claim to know your motives, I can only conclude what they are not from your actions. The invitation stands if you'd like to collaborate with other editors to improve the content. If you're not interested in collaboration, our conversation is done. General Ization ^Talk 01:47, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Facts were made by concensus? Satrio.m (talk) 01:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

We are waiting for you to state a fact, versus questioning other editors about their positions. General Ization ^Talk 01:56, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Again, Facts are made by concensus? Satrio.m (talk) 01:56, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

This is how we solve vandalism, Discussion.

So, facts are made by Concensus all this time on WIkipedia? Satrio.m (talk) 01:57, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

I hope I'm not blocked from editing due to many replies I made here. Satrio.m (talk) 01:59, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Another rhetorical game? Sorry, no time for that. See Fact for an explanation if you need it. As to consensus, as WP:CONSENSUS (which I have repeatedly linked above) explains, no, facts aren't made by consensus here, decisions are. And you are so far providing nothing that contributes to that process. General Ization ^Talk 02:01, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm asking @Vif12vf for source he meant and suddenly here you say Concensus is done to determine facts. Haha

I need answer only from Vif12vf about the source. Don' reply. Satrio.m (talk) 02:03, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

"Decision are."

YES THAT"S WHY I'M ASKING VIF12VF FOR THE SOURCE HE MENTIONED.

And why you warn only me, and not him as well? He also made repeatedly same edits? Satrio.m (talk) 02:05, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

First, you may not instruct other editors not to participate in discussions here. Second, @Vif12vf is under no obligation to provide a source for restoring the existing, consensus version of the article. As the editor who changed the content, it is your responsibility to provide sources that support the change. See WP:BURDEN, which makes this very clear. Now if you have a source that explains why the current version of our article is wrong and should be changed, we are ready for you to identify it. General Ization ^Talk 02:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Nope, the existing text was something new added in the past. So mine will be the existing text in the past. Satrio.m (talk) 02:09, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

The article's editing history shows otherwise. The word "God", and not the word "Allah", appeared in the translation for weeks, if not months, prior to your edit. Again, if you have something to share with us to show that it is incorrect, please do. General Ization ^Talk 02:17, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Since the editor seems to have retired, I will close by suggesting that they look at the cited sources at our article Allah. It is clear from them that the common translation of the Arabic word "Allah" to English is "God". I was quite prepared for the editor to explain why the technically-accurate translation by an educated speaker of Arabic might be something else, but unfortunately I couldn't convince them to stop the games and veiled insults and make their argument (much less share sources to support it). If the editor would like to return and take a constructive approach to discussing the issue they raised, perhaps we can actually improve the article. General Ization ^Talk 03:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

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Bible: Palestine - phonologically Arabic Filasṭīn (Philistine)

Israel and Philistine battle through the Bible in Holy War. Philistine is a biblical place and part of our religious appreciation through our understanding of God's word in our life.

We should understand why God is supporting who in the Holy War and who will win for what reason. Israel has lost many wars to Philistine through the Bible for rebellious behavior, adultery and idol worship or perversion of true belief. Philistine has won because of Israel's sins through the Bible. Samson killed thousands of men and in the end he died in the arena chained to the walls that fell on him and crushed him. 91.66.104.223 (talk) 21:27, 6 February 2023 (UTC)