Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Governorship of Sarah Palin
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep (non-admin colsure), very near unanimous keep consensus Fr33kmantalk APW 06:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Governorship_of_Sarah_Palin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
The information on this subarticle now has many sources and this duplication is unnecessary. The activity on Palin in general allows POV editors just another avenue to include their edit if it's rejected on the main Palin page or if they want to "sneak" it in by subarticle by passing the consensus process that seems to be working on the main Palin talk page. [First time I've done this, excuse me if I did it wrong] Theosis4u (talk) 22:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Some evidence to avoid the main Palin consensus process is here
- The main topics presented in Governorship_of_Sarah_Palin are the following
- Energy & Environment , is already covered in Political_positions_of_Sarah_Palin#Energy_and_environment , Sarah_Palin
- Budget , is already covered in Political_positions_of_Sarah_Palin#Government_Spending , Sarah_Palin
- Matanuska Maid Dairy, ISN'T covered in Political_positions_of_Sarah_Palin#Government_Spending but could be.
- Bridge to Nowhere, covered in Political_positions_of_Sarah_Palin#.22Bridge_to_Nowhere.22 , Sarah_Palin, and Gravina_Island_Bridge
- Earmarks, covered in Political_positions_of_Sarah_Palin#Earmarks, Sarah_Palin
- Public Safety Commissioner dismissal, covered in Alaska_Public_Safety_Commissioner_dismissal , Sarah_Palin
- Keep - notable? yes. Supported by reliable sources? yes. Threshold for keeping article has been met. Merge and redirect would be the alternative, but I don't see any reason for that. Also, please see WP:POINT. --Evb-wiki (talk) 22:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mayoralty_of_Sarah_Palin has the same debate - though without the insults being offered. Please note, I did place the question on the Talk page of the article and I went back an added the comment about this deletion request I made. I thought that was being responsible and respectful to those involved. I don't see how notable & reliable sources are the only requirements otherwise subartilces could be infinitive. Theosis4u (talk) 23:06, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Sarah Palin unless that would make her article too large. Edward321 (talk) 23:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - a necessary daughter article of Sarah Palin that is consistent with summary style. This would be comparable (from a parent/child standpoint) with United States Senate career of Barack Obama. -- Scjessey (talk) 23:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Scjessey. In response to Edward321, such a merger would indeed make her article too large. JamesMLane t c 00:24, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Scjessey.Ferrylodge (talk) 00:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, summaries can be written, not easy given the controversy, but it can be done. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, unlike the iffy Mayoralty of Sarah Palin article, this is a clear keep. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 03:30, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep both. Hobartimus (talk) 04:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep both, specifically to avoid WP:Coatrack on her bio page. --Kickstart70-T-C 06:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note, before I goto bed. Looks like this might be a "keeper". Can someone make sure this is communicated very well on the main talk page as well as the politics one? This way, the material is consistent throughout and not contradictory when compared against each other. Sound reasonable? Theosis4u (talk) 08:20, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep -- the summary style makes sense in the main article. As more information emerges, this article will be a better place for in-depth study of her term as governor than the main article would be. Coemgenus 15:25, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- To agree with User:SimpleParadox's point below, I think it should be kept, but we should also monitor it to keep it NPOV and within the bounds of its purported subject matter. Coemgenus 17:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete/Merge If this article were actually about the Governorship of Sarah Palin, then I might be okay with it. Unfortunately, this article is clearly a POV fork attempting to highlight certain areas of her governorship in a less than neutral light (evidenced by the dozen or so crafted "gotcha" statements in the article). For example, when the lead draws attention to the fact that she has never traveled outside of "North America" (not "Alaska" or "the United States"), a fact that has little to do with one's governance of a state, one can plainly see the purpose of this supposed "Summary". Theosis4u, don't be intimidated, you had it right in the first place. AfD is not a vote count, you've clearly shown that the vast majority of topics covered in this article have been written about in depth elsewhere and your concern that this article is an attempt to evade consensus is valid. Cheers, --SimpleParadox 16:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Absolutely notable. rootology (C)(T) 16:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge with Mayoralty of Sarah Palin and Electoral history of Sarah Palin to Early life and career of Sarah Palin. Grsztalk 17:50, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Notable; sourced; if it were gone, we'd have to make the main article substantially longer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GreekParadise (talk • contribs) 19:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- KeepGreat Page , better than the main page, more specific , more detail, and better oveall presentation.. Reduce the blurb in the main article and direct to this page.
--MisterAlbert (talk) 20:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and reduce the related content in the Sarah Palin article to a summary. We should follow the guideline Wikipedia:Summary style. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep Obviously notable. The Sarah Palin article is already huge and loads extremely slowly so merging is a bad option. POV should be dealt with as it comes up. Also, broadly accusing the editors of this page of trying to "sneak" in POV is a failure to assume good faith.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 20:55, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "or if.." and Talk:Sarah_Palin#Summarizing_Mayoralty_section allows others to make up their own minds. Theosis4u (talk) 22:51, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - No policy or real reason for deletion. / Blaxthos ( t / c ) 02:01, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.