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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was withdrawn by nominator . No outstanding delete !votes. Non-admin closure. KuyaBriBriTalk 18:09, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Simon Proctor[edit]
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BLP on composer failing to establish notability and with very few sources (in which the composer is only mentioned in passing). PROD was contested. Jubilee♫clipman 23:59, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless article can be improved with references and evidence of notability.--Deskford (talk) 00:08, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]- Comment. It would be helpful to the discussion if those asking for deletion could address each of the sources in the article and explain how it is invalid for the purposes of establishing notability per WP:CREATIVE criterion 3. Phil Bridger (talk) 00:28, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply - Not so much WP:CREATIVE that I was meaning as WP:GNG significant coverage. I'm not sure the three sources actually address this composer in enough detail nor are any of them primarily about him. Also, one of these sources is only tertiary and is not about this composer: of its self this is not a problem but in this case, given the fact that both the Times and the Globe articles only mention him as a composer who happens to have written for a particular instrument, I don't feel there are enough secondary sources about this composer to back it up. With more work, though (adding actual quotes from the articles would be a good start) notability could be perhaps estabilshed. --Jubilee♫clipman 01:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Notability for musicians and composers is covered in Wikipedia:Notability (music). --Kleinzach 02:10, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- More - I hadn't spotted the link at the bottom to the Serpent website specifically about him. This does help establish notability in his field, actually. There might be more to say on him after all... --Jubilee♫clipman 01:32, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Reply - Not so much WP:CREATIVE that I was meaning as WP:GNG significant coverage. I'm not sure the three sources actually address this composer in enough detail nor are any of them primarily about him. Also, one of these sources is only tertiary and is not about this composer: of its self this is not a problem but in this case, given the fact that both the Times and the Globe articles only mention him as a composer who happens to have written for a particular instrument, I don't feel there are enough secondary sources about this composer to back it up. With more work, though (adding actual quotes from the articles would be a good start) notability could be perhaps estabilshed. --Jubilee♫clipman 01:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:46, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I've added enough info to convince myself (at least) that this is worth having. I haven't found any reviews yet, but his music is published and his concerto was played by the Boston Pops Orchestra. He is notable in a very small field, but nevertheless IMO notable. --Kleinzach 00:50, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak Keep — Notable, but the article needs more citations to verify even more his notability. Airplaneman talk 02:43, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw[edit]
- Withdraw AfD Proposal - Instead work on the article. More citations and sources have been added since this discussion started which establish notability. No other BLP policies are infringed. --Jubilee♫clipman 05:17, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.