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Former good articleThe Legend of Zelda was one of the Video games good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
March 10, 2006Good article nomineeListed
November 21, 2006Featured article candidateNot promoted
January 24, 2008WikiProject peer reviewReviewed
May 4, 2008Featured topic candidatePromoted
May 31, 2009Good article reassessmentDelisted
September 22, 2009Featured topic removal candidateDemoted
Current status: Delisted good article

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 28 August 2021 and 10 December 2021. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): MLCforLING150C1.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 11:05, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Should the sales and reception emulate the Super Mario Article and show sales per platform?

I feel that would be more informative to the reader instead of just lumping say the n64 version of ocarina of time with the 3DS version despite both games releasing more than a decade apart. The Reception is already split so I think having the sales split as well would make it uniform Gemini.skywalker (talk) 20:48, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per-platform sales are listed here, you just have to hover over (or click on) the footnotes.TheHumanIntersect (talk) 20:57, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

BotW sequel release date

On the last line of the History section, it says that the BotW sequel is set for release in 2022. Recently, it has been delayed, with the new time frame given as 'Spring 2023'. This can be seen at the end of the opening paragraph on the game's wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untitled_The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Breath_of_the_Wild_sequel And on the original source, the Nintendo of America twitter page: https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1508806409797963784 The line should be edited to say: "An untitled Breath of the Wild sequel was announced during the Nintendo Direct E3 2019 presentation on June 11, set for release in 2022 but delayed until Spring 2023." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoopla (talk • contribs) 12:12, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Zoopla You are correct. This has been updated on other pages, but must have been missed here. Thanks for pointing it out. Fieryninja (talk) 12:24, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done Fieryninja (talk) 12:33, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:SEASON, we shouldn't be using "Spring" though. It should be something like "Q1/Q2 2023", "first half of 2023", etc. Sergecross73 msg me 12:44, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pet peeve but using "Q1/Q2" is nerdy and makes no sense to somebody who doesn't know what a financial quarter is. Is this common for films and other media too? We should just be saying early/mid/late instead. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:20, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm personally open to anything that doesn't violate SEASON. Sergecross73 msg me 01:49, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I agree, but financial quarters are not much better. They aren't even standardized as Japanese fiscal years begin on April 1. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:02, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I looked it up and, on https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Nintendo-Switch-games/The-sequel-to-The-Legend-of-Zelda-Breath-of-the-Wild-1576884.html (the official Nintendo UK website) the first paragraph reads: 'The sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is aiming for a spring 2023 release on Nintendo Switch'
So spring time is the given release window by Nintendo Zoopla (talk) 15:13, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Right, but be aware of WP:SEASON. Sergecross73 msg me 15:33, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We also have to avoid using seasons as timeframes per WP:SEASON like Serge brought up. An easy solution to this would be Q1/pre-spring Winter = early, Q2/Q3/Spring/Summer = mid, and Q4/Fall/Winter = late. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 10:47, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2022

Mainline games’ font should be changed to bold to differentiate from remakes in the timeline release history. 95.102.48.0 (talk) 18:38, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done - This is not necessary, nor is it intuitive for readers to understand. Sergecross73 msg me 19:12, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not to mention the potential edit warring that would result with certain games (see Sonic 3D Blast). ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, also that. I'm sure there's some odd Zelda title where there will be back and forth arguing over whether or not it's "mainline". Sergecross73 msg me 20:11, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a reference to Casimir Libersli ReTRio's project on June 18, 2022

Hi. I added a paragraph about the Zelda Project Suite which was removed with comment "So? Fan project, unofficial, no secondary reliable coverage.".

No secondary reliable coverage
The paragraph cited an interview on fr:BX1, an official TV station in Belgium. This is secondary coverage, and it is reliable. Is there some way I should tag this to make it appear more clearly?
Fan project
Casimir Liberski is a renown world class jazz musician. This new album is being premiered live for three days at one of the main Jazz venues in Brussels where he is Artist-in-residence. I do not think this can be qualified as a fan project.
Unofficial
I cannot tell how official this is from the online information I see but I don't think this is relevant. These works seem perfectly noteworthy to me.

Slefff (talk) 14:30, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would have removed it too. It's not officially related to the game, and being merely published on YouTube doesn't say much about its importance either. It felt more like an effort to promote the concerts that are apparently happening this weekend... Sergecross73 msg me 14:39, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Promotion of concerts is usually done before, not after. I just noticed the works because of the concerts. I looked here for similar things and thought is would be good to have pointers to professional derivative works such as these. Being officially sanctioned by the publishers of the game does not seem to be required to be mentioned on a Wikipedia page. For example the Space Invaders#In_popular_culture contains many links to unofficial derivative works, there are many more examples. Slefff (talk) 15:04, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, your initial add was on June 17th, and your addition mentioned it happening June 17-19, so you was added before/during the concerts. Regardless, I think you're missing the point. This is a huge, massively influential game, selling tens of millions of copies. It's an WP:UNDUE issue if we add a paragraph for every fan project that gets uploaded to YouTube or social media. This is getting relatively little coverage from reliable sources in the video game or music world (I read extensively in both, and I've seen nothing about it outside of this very discussion.) Thus just isn't that important of a thing to include. Sergecross73 msg me 15:33, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Interviews on local TV stations are generally not considered independent either, and that's the only present source. Besides that, I'm doubtful Casimir Liberski is truly notable, that article has no sources currently that represent independent secondary SIGCOV. -- ferret (talk) 15:38, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To be more clear, my edit was on June 18th at 1:20AM local time, (23:20 UTC). I mistakenly wrote June 17-19 in the paragraph, the concerts were June 16-18. WP:UNDUE is not relevant here as it pertains to conflicting points of view, not related works.
It does not seem like the notability of this jazz musician is in question on the Casimir Liberski wikipedia page so I don't see the point of bringing this up here.
The Wikipedia:Notability says nothing about local TV stations being not independent.
I agree that it would be better to have more references to these works and these might appear in time. Other than this, I do not see the other objections as valid. Adding such material would be consistent with the opinions expressed in Wikipedia:"In_popular_culture"_content.
Slefff (talk) 21:09, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
UNDUE isn't just about different sides, it's about whether or not things are worth mentioning at all. We're not compelled to add anything and everything that has a source. Sergecross73 msg me 22:35, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just looked at WP:UNDUE, it only talks about viewpoints. Any other references that might support your claim? Slefff (talk) 19:18, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You're not reading it right - you're thinking of the term "viewpoint" too narrowly. Here, it's the viewpoint of whether or not he's worth mentioning. Whether or not he should be mentioned over something else similar. That sort of thing. It's not specific as to be merely referring to positive or negative sentiments or two sides of a conflict. WP:FRINGE is another similar sentiment, again backing what I was saying before - sources are required for inclusion, but sources don't mean we're required to add it. It's the bare minimum barrier to overcome. Sergecross73 msg me 19:26, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Argubly, as UNDUE is on NPOV, it is more geared towards viewpoints and not general information. However policies like WP:NOT and WP:V give the reason to exclude in absence of available sources: we are meant to summarize what RSes say, and not every sourcable data point need to be included for a topic. Thus is exactly such a case. Additionally, the "in popular culture" sections are being frowned upon per WP:TRIVIA, unless there is significant sourcing to support. --Masem (t) 21:15, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Uh, I literally just questioned the notability of the musician, lol. That's why it's quite relevant. I'm still pondering whether I want to send it to AFD or not. Also, it's interviews (being non-independent) that I was talking about. Local coverage also is, generally speaking, weaker, though. -- ferret (talk) 01:05, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wondering if Tears of the Kingdom could be added in the chronology section

Exactly what it says on the tin—since Tears of the Kingdom is the sequel to Breath of the Wild, and it has a title now, I think it should be added into the section detailing the series' fictional chronology, right below Breath of the Wild's placement in the timeline. However, I don't know how to properly make this edit, nor am I sure whether or not it's reasonable to do so at this point in time. Is it? Mount-lanayru (talk) 21:00, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We have no idea if it takes place chronologically to Breath. We need to wait for more details. Masem (t) 21:02, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't, considering how convoluted the timeline is. Sergecross73 msg me 21:03, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Understandable. While it more-likely-than-not takes place after Breath of the Wild, seeing as how it features the same Hyrule, the same Link and Zelda, etc., it'll prolly be best to wait until official sources confirm its placement in the timeline. Mount-lanayru (talk) 01:00, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rumored animated film from Illumination

There are rumors that Illumination is making an animated film based on The Legend of Zelda video games.[1] I am not sure if this will be Illumination and Nintendo's next collaborative project after The Super Mario Bros. Movie. 108.175.226.244 (talk) 20:26, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Kostov, Scott (2023-01-12). "Illumination is developing a 'Legend of Zelda' animated movie". Xfire. Retrieved 2023-01-15.

Release info source

Pretty great source for release and platform info. Nothing new really, especially to the average Zelda fan, but could be very helpful for sourcing various info. Sergecross73 msg me 21:06, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2023

Please italicize The Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass in the Fictional chronology section. 69.165.155.61 (talk) 15:42, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done small jars tc 16:12, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2023

Please add a space between the 60th citation and Skyward Sword. 69.165.155.61 (talk) 15:43, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. TheHumanIntersect (talk) 18:26, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Story

In Hyrule Historia (2013) Oracle of Ages/Seasons comes after A Link to the Past. 90.132.122.76 (talk) 18:24, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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