User talk:Saikyoryu

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Happy editing! –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 03:48, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Red Slapper (talk) 04:12, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

July 2023

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making personal attacks towards other editors.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text at the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Sandstein 12:39, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Saikyoryu (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I wasn't allowed to even participate in that so-called discussion, and I consider most of what it says wrong. I will apologize for being upset and saying angry things after a good day was ruined, but I do not think I have done anything wrong relearning the things I learned in a wiki camp activity a few years ago and trying to improve pages and contribute Reliable Sources to discussions. MJL told me "It's pretty much a given that any person who displays an iota of competence with Wikipedia gets accused of being a sockpuppet"[1] and I guess that is accurate. :I would continue trying to make useful edits as I have done before. I think this is mostly about Red Slapper wanting people who do not agree with his "side" or his demands that they go buy a ticket to the movie removed from wikipedia. :Also I'm a girl and would appreciate NOT being called a "guy."

Decline reason:

Please see WP:GAB to understand how to craft an appropriate unblock request. You should only talk about your actions, not those of other editors. Also, "I do not think I have done anything wrong" is a non-starter here. Yamla (talk) 14:09, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

To @MJL

@MJL you were right. I learned to do things at a wikipedia camp run by my middle school teacher a few years ago, and so I got bad faith insulted and called a "sockpuppet" nonstop until Red Slapper managed to get someone to block me. Wikipedia people don't want anyone competent to actually be here to try to help improve anything.

Red Slapper and FMSky even used the things I was TOLD to do by you and by Help Desk as "evidence" that I'm a "sockpuppet" before misgendering me. Saikyoryu (talk) 14:11, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh this is even more stupid. @ToBeFree let a request that I only managed to put in after multiple tries, IN THE FING PLACE I WAS TOLD TO PUT IT BY HELP DESK PEOPLE, sit and then claims it was "unnecessary" after leaving it sit for a week. I think I have a right to be insulted by how I've been treated @Doug Weller. You all want to talk about "civility" but you don't actually treat anyone with kindness or respect or civility yourselves. You run people into walls and then blame them for their noses getting bruised instead. Saikyoryu (talk) 16:00, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gender

I'm not sure how anyone would have known your gender. You can set it in your preferences menu. It shows at the top of your talk page with a gender symbol, at the moment yours is a circle with a dot in the middle, mine is the symbol for male. Doug Weller talk 14:18, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am setting it now. I am very upset at how I have been treated so disrespectfully and uncivilly when I have worked very hard to put together cites and reliable sources. Saikyoryu (talk) 15:54, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Saikyoryu, I had a brief look over your contributions, and I'll say this - the block was inevitable. Not because of your competence - I think you have the capacity to be a productive editor - but because of your willingness to insult people you disagree with, or who do things you don't understand. If you want to contribute here, you need to show that you can resolve disagreements in a calm and civil manner. Sometimes that means asking polite questions, rather than lashing out, when people do things you think are disrespectful. I can't speak for Red Slapper or anyone else involved in the discussion about that film, but I have worked with Doug Weller and ToBeFree for years, and you could not meet a pair of more polite and helpful people. Take a bit of time away, think about what has happened, and if you still want to contribute, read WP:GAB and request unblock again. Girth Summit _(blether) 16:56, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just got reports of FMSky going out and bad faith striking all my comments now @Girth Summit. I know what this is about and why the bad faith report was made where they false represented my editing. What they want is to "win" and run off people who aren't on their "side." I have no problem with Doug Weller and I tried to ask ToBeFree for a do-over but he ignored me and then did what he did above. What I see is he's been uncivil and two faced to me. Saikyoryu (talk) 17:08, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Look, you're not helping yourself here. You call it a 'bad faith report', and 'false representing' your editing, but I see multiple instances of you insulting people - that's just not on, and if you keep it up someone will likely come along and revoke your TPA. Now, you call ToBeFree uncivil and two faced; that doesn't sound like the hard-working, approachable and respected person who I have worked alongside for years, so I'm going to go and look at your interactions and see whether I can work out what your beef with him is. Give me a minute. Girth Summit _(blether) 17:24, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Girth Summit you want to know what my problem is? I apologized to @ToBeFree and I thought that we were ok [2] and then ToBeFree shows up in this bullshit "report" that I wasn't even allowed to respond to, calling my request (that he LEFT SIT FOR A WEEK) "unnecessary" despite ME BEING SENT THERE BY THE HELP DESK.

Wikipedia is like the asshole jocks who shoved me and my friends into the walls and lockers in the halls. Fuck all of you. Saikyoryu (talk) 17:35, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. So, you left a message at ToBeFree's talk page, asking him to do you a favour (diff). He responded, the same day, giving you a pointer on where you can make a request like that, ((diff), and even indicated that he'd checked that you ought to be able to make that edit yourself (diff). Your response to him? A direct insult (diff), calling him dishonest. Do you realise that administrators are volunteers too? They aren't obliged to respond to your requests, we're on our own time here. You asked someone to do you a favour, they tried to help (but not in the way you wanted him to), so you insulted them. I appreciate that you apologised later, but if you can't see that you behaviour in that encounter was outrageously out of line, then I withdraw my earlier comment that you might have the makings of a productive editor. Frankly, your attitude stinks. I won't be the one to withdraw your access to this talk page, but I won't be surprised if someone else does if you're just going to scream insults into the void. Good luck in the future. Girth Summit _(blether) 17:46, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"and even indicated that he'd checked that you ought to be able to make that edit yourself (diff)."

WHICH DID NOT WORK

@Girth Summit my "attitude"stinks? You supposedly have a "do't bite the newbies" policy but I'm going to tell Mr. Henry next I see him at church, he should NEVER do the wiki camp again. Nothing he taught us was true. Saikyoryu (talk) 17:55, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MJL I guess this is your type of assholes. And how you treat anyone trying to do good ediits. Saikyoryu (talk) 17:57, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making disruptive comments and insulting users. Thank you, Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 17:57, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. When I find that something doesn't work as I expect it to, I ask for help. If I still can't figure it out, I ask for more help. What I don't do is insult the person who tried to help me. ToBeFree didn't create that form, he can't tell why you're having problems with it. You can't go around insulting people when things don't work out how you want them to. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:01, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

(Girth Summit, I have a feeling this may be CAPTCHA-related and the form doesn't work if MediaWiki requires one to be filled out. I haven't yet investigated that more thoroughly yet, but it may be worth checking.) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:24, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To @Silver Seren

@Silver Seren thank you. At least there is one decent person here. Saikyoryu (talk) 18:35, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]