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Is the 25h anniv special really a part of BB25?

I'm not sure about this, should it be listed as a standalone entry at List of Big Brother (American TV series) episodes (2020–present), or is it really considered a numbered episode as a part of Big Brother 25? Zaathras (talk) 23:53, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In it's current state, based on the title, it makes the most sense here. In terms of years, it's not actually the 25th anniversary, which means CBS is using it in reference to this season. That means it's best grouped as an episode of the season. If the episode largely consists of flashbacks to previous seasons and no references to the 25th season, then we can discus relocating it. If it serves more as an introduction to this season, maybe introducing the cast or featuring a house tour, then it undoubtedly belongs here. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:10, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Within a month, it became clear the 25th anniversary special from last Wednesday is NOT part of Big Brother 25 as it only shows highlights from the past 24 seasons without any major references to this season. Furthermore, Paramount+ has listed this episode separately from the full episodes list, regardless of what season one chooses to watch. Therefore, we should do the same and have a separate location for it. 9March2019 (talk) 22:11, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Where would you put it? It’s not numbered as part of the season. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:43, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
On List of Big Brother (American TV series) episodes (2020–present), separate it into its own "Specials" header. Zaathras (talk) 01:05, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Go for it, then. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have no objections on it being moved to the LoE page or even just removing it in its entirety since it seems to officially be an episode of ET rather than BB. However, if it is going to stay in this articles episode listing, it doesn't need a table of it's own, that's the purpose of the part header that is already labeled as "special". TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:18, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add have nots list bracket 2600:8803:F10E:AC00:D36:29B5:FBCE:8390 (talk) 14:10, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Multiverse Twists

Should we add a section in format for the different twists tied to each multiverse? E51539 (talk) 01:27, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would think any twists so far can be included in the individual episode summaries. Bgsu98 (Talk) 01:58, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is the twist section like the one we have on BB24 usually made after the season finishes? E51539 (talk) 02:15, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Since roughly 2018 we've been trying to slowly align Big Brother articles to better follow MOS:TV rather than be WP:FANCRUFT and written from an WP:INUNIVERSE perspective. Because of that we've reworked the twists section this year into the Format changes and additions" subsection. If the information tied to the multiverse can be written from a WP:NPOV with reliable sources and from an overall view, then by all means please contribute. Otherwise the information, and the more specific details, should be added to the episodes summaries. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:25, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy vs Critical Response

Can we change the section name from Controversy to Critical response? To me, "controversy" sounds opinion-based because people have different opinions on what they consider controversial. On the other hand, "critical response" focuses more on facts and plus the name serves as a reminder to only bring up significant issues with each season of Big Brother. The criteria for significance would be reliable independent sources discussing the matter, whether or not aired within the episode(s). 9March2019 (talk) 22:26, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was bold and went ahead and implemented the change, I've always written TV articles with the header critical response so I have no objections and agree with what you said above. I was actually contemplating this change yesterday when I expanded on the section. If someone disagrees I'm happy to discuss further. TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:27, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it looks good! Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:56, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit

Luke has been removed from the intro can someone add that please 2600:1009:B122:4AE5:DDF9:42ED:312B:162D (talk) 08:01, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add what, and why? Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:46, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd assume the IP is referring to the fact that Valentine was removed from the opening credits of the series. Unfortunately no secondary sources mention this fact, if it was absolutely necessary to include it, it would probably be best sourced to the episode itself, although I'm not sure that it is. TheDoctorWho (talk) 15:59, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it would be mentioned within the Critical response section (Luke Valentine's usage of an ethnic slur) because his removal from the opening credits would be traced to his expulsion. I can't think of any other reason he would be excluded from opening credits. Of course, there may be sources picking up on the fact later on. But for now, it's considered WP:FANCRUFT. 9March2019 (talk) 22:14, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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