Talk:Doyers Street

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Did you know... that the term "hatchet man" originated from the weapon of choice used in killings on Chinatown's Doyers Street, known as the "Bloody Angle" for its frequent gang murders in the early 20th century?

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One source (Jaffee's Ghoulish Book of Weird Records pp.42-3) says that the Bloody Angle was formed by the intersection of Mott Street and Pell Street.--Auric (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name of article

It's absurd to name this "Bloody Angle," which is a flagrant violation of WP:NAME. The common name for Doyers Street is just that, Doyers Street. "Bloody Angle" derives from the Tong Wars of the 1920s and is absolutely not the name by which this street is known. Only historians and history buffs like myself are aware that it is called by that name. The article itself says that its so-called "violent history" ended in 1930. It has been peaceful for eight decades, and I'm surprised that people in Chinatown haven't complained vociferously about this ridiculous title for the article. ScottyBerg (talk) 16:03, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Once this article is, presumably, properly named, its POV issue needs to be addressed. The article focuses entirely on its violent ancient history, while it is now mainly known for its restaurants. This is unacceptable even for a stub. ScottyBerg (talk) 16:14, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I support the move also. The Bloody Angle is far more famous by name as part of the Battle of Spotsylvania. This article is unreferenced and the name isn't well known to those outside NYC.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► ((⊕)) 21:28, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's right. The 1290 Google News Archives hits are almost all about the Civil War battle. They are reduced to twenty when "Doyers Street" is added to the search language. ScottyBerg (talk) 21:34, 17 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merger complete. Berean, thanks for fixing the redirect, I overlooked that. ScottyBerg (talk) 18:35, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Irving Berlin claim

The attached article has conflicting information regarding the location of the club where Irving Berlin worked. Specifically, it claims the location is on a neighboring street (Pell) and not Doyers.

https://infamousnewyork.com/tag/pelham-cafe Frunobulax (talk) 16:59, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]