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Zheng Chongbin (Artist)

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Artist whose artistic notability has not been shown. This article was declined twice in AFC, and then moved to article space, and moved back to draft space by User:Naraht, and then moved to article space again, so that this is a contested draftification. The title of this article appears to be an unnecessary disambiguation, since there is no Zheng Chongbin, but further review shows that Zheng Chongbin is a protected title due to repeated recreation, so that the addition of the disambiguator is gaming of titles. The article has been reference-bombed, so an assessment of the sources has not been done. If the originator thinks that this is a better and more neutral biography than the deleted pages, the proper procedure should be to discuss with the protecting administrator, User:Jimfbleak, or request unprotection at RFPP, and if that is not successful, request Deletion Review, rather than adding a disambiguator to game the title. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists, China, and California. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is why the AFC process exists and this is the result when someone decides they don't like the result. There may *still* be room for an article on this person (Marina Bay Sands & Chinese Culture Center with exhibits), I wouldn't *reject* it in AFC, but if the author is unwilling to move to mainspace and then do it again, this is really the only option.Naraht (talk) 19:06, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I performed some cleanup and corrected the sentence case on the disambiguation Zheng Chongbin (Artist) → Zheng Chongbin (artist) before realizing there was a WP:GAMENAME being played. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 19:11, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments. I tried getting in touch with the editor who rejected one of the latest drafts about two months ago on the notability issue grounds asking to reconsider the decision and explaining why I believe the notability criterion is met. I still haven't heard back, so I did some further edits and published the article. It was not possible to move it into the published space under the original title, so I changed the title, provided that it would still be linked to the original article in order to allow for a quicker review (it has already been almost a year since this article was first created). When the article was removed from the published space, once again the notability issue was raised, which I wanted the editor to reconsider, so I moved it back to the published space and explained to the editor why I believe the notability is met (please note (1) the mention of the artworks in the academic sources such as the Yishu journal, (2) the presence of the works in the reputable museums like The Met, and also (3) the awards, such as the Asia Game Changer West Awards). Over the past year each time the article was rejected and the comments were left, I worked on each of the editing suggestions - e.g. the language has been made as factual as possible; about the presence of many references - this was done in response to the comment on the very first draft of the article asking to support each mentioned piece of information with a reference, so this is what I did. After so many editing rounds, I reached the stage that making further edits is very difficult - I believe the article is suitable for Wikipedia as it is now. However, if you have any further suggestions on what needs to be added or underlined in the article to make it more suitable for Wikipedia, please let me know. If you think there are too many references, I can delete some information which will remove some references. If you think it is better to continue working on the article under the original title rather than via the linked article, I am happy to do this as well. Please just let me know what exactly I need to do to get this article published. Thank you for your time and kind assistance. Artbranch (talk) 20:28, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]