Talk:Malpighiales

Rafflesiaceae sister to Euphorbiaceae?

Some of the relevant articles are paywalled, so I'm reluctant to just Be Bold, but haven't all recent results, including Wurdack and Davis (2009), said that Rafflesiaceae are embedded within Euphorbiaceae? (I'm basing this on the abstract in the case of the Wurdack and Davis). If so I would recommend writing this in the cladogram as a single entry worded as "Euphorbiaceae (including Rafflesiaceae)", rather than as two sister families. Kingdon (talk) 20:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be willing to get any articles for you when you need them. Just drop me a message on my talk page if you're still interested in this to expand based on the full text of those articles. Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 01:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I'll let you know if I get the time/interest to do more on this and need them, but sticking with the status quo for now is OK with me. I'm not sure Euphorbiaceae without Rafflesiaceae is paraphyletic if Peraceae is split out. Kingdon (talk) 21:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Do Malpighiales belong to Fabids or to Malvids?

The box on this page says that they belong to Malvids, but the tree at Rosids places them to Fabids. So which one is it?

HlTo CZ (talk) 09:23, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just came to +1 it. Confusing, even after reading the explanatory remark (in the Affinities section) about it kinda belonging to both. (If you're not a botanist, that explanation doesn't help.)

Update: just noticed another remark about this issue at the end of the Phylogeny section, regarding APG IV updates. That note agrees with the article (indicating the need for updating the Rosids page then?):

"Changes made in ... APG IV were ... the transfer ... from the fabids (rosid I) to the malvids (rosid II)." Sz. (talk) 22:27, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery

I'm planning to add a gallery of type genera (for the APG IV families), similar to what I did over at Brassicales ... I don't have strong preferences about any of this, let me know what you think. - Dank (push to talk) 15:54, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]