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Politico's "take" on Freedom of Speech
Respect for Politico publishing Shapiro, and standing by its position of doing so; yet Politico retains its "leans left" status, as exemplified by over a hundred of its staff actually putting their disdain for publishing the 'right of center' Shapiro perspective. Journalism used to be about presenting facts as facts, and opinion as opinion. If those hundred politico staff have lost their journalistic objectivity, they should be released. There are plenty of 'left' news organizations to employ them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.111.41.146 (talk) 12:46, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
I have not read this entire article ... nor this entire "Talk:" page; but the part I did read, seems interesting.
I came here after reading https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/29/inside-the-online-cesspool-of-anti-semitism-that-housed-robert-bowers-221949 ... an article which could be interpreted as implying that Politico does not like the idea of "freedom of speech" for certain "speakers" ... those individuals or groups whom Politico -- (or some other 'arbiter' of thought or opinion) -- disagrees with.
Am I reading it wrong? Or does Politico seem to be arguing that the part of the U.S. Bill of Rights that mentions -- (right in the First amendment!) -- "Freedom of Speech", should apply only to some speakers, but not to all speakers? Politico seems to focus [in that article] on one web site -- Gab -- where ... apparently, some of the "Free Speech" that appears on that web site, is of a kind that Politico may dislike and/or disagree with.
Is Politico saying that, in their opinion, any web site should restrict the "Freedom of Speech" of users who hold opinions that are "controversial" or otherwise objectionable in some way -- ? --
- This issue has been nipped in the bud by Axel Springer Company (publishing BILD) buying Politico. They are system conform in the way the Murdoch media are. No more controversies in that area. 2001:8003:A070:7F00:894F:A4B4:BEF:26B2 (talk) 03:18, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Even if Politico is not suggesting, there, that someone from the government should censor all -- (or maybe just a certain kind of) -- "bad" speech[or perhaps writing ... in the case of written words on a web site], they still seem to be arguing that a web site has -- (or, it "should" have) -- a responsibility to restrict or otherwise 'answer for', content that they allow to be hosted on their platform.
Could this be "related" to some of the recent controversy over section 230 -- ? --
PS: I think I can guess what Deborah Lipstadt would recommend. I think she would be for "freedom of speech".
Thanks for your patience, since (a) this may have become kinda long and rambling, and (b) I have not even checked, yet ... to see whether this article already mentions (or comments about) Politico's "take" on "Freedom of Speech".
Any comments would be appreciated.
Any comments? --Mike Schwartz (talk) 14:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
The "Ideology and influence" section
Politico's ideology (if it has one) and its influence are two very different things. I don't think both topics should be addressed in one section. The section as it stands contains one paragraph consisting of two sentences trying to put a label on Politico's ideology: "In a 2007 opinion piece, progressive watchdog group Media Matters for America said that Politico had a "Republican tilt".[75] A 2012 study found that the percentage of Politico readers who identify as Democrats—29%—is equal to the percentage who identify as Republicans.[76]".
I'm in favor of removing that entire paragraph and renaming the section to confine the section to Politico's influence. Here's why I am in favor of removing that paragraph:
- The material from Media Matters is from 14 years ago. Leaving it in (in 2021) implies that Wikipedia thinks this 2007 opinion piece from Media Matters has stood the test of time and can be relied on as an authoritative source for how to think about Politico's ideology, 14 years down the road, through a number of big changes at Politico. There's that, and then there are problems citing Media Matters in general as per WP:RSP.
- The 2nd sentence is from 2012 -- eleven years ago. It has to do with the political preferences of people who read Politico. It's WP:OR to suggest that the political preferences of the people who read a website is good empirical evidence about whether a website about politics is putting a thumb on the scale toward Team Red or Team Blue. For reasons of "this is a very old link" and "I would also have argued against including this in 2012", I'm in favor of removing that sentence as well. Novellasyes (talk) 16:14, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
To add to article
To add to this article: the fact that, just prior to the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Politico owner Mathias Döpfner sent an email to his colleagues asking them to "pray" for former President Donald Trump to be re-elected. Source 173.88.246.138 (talk) 21:59, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
Politico cookies
It has become commonplace for websites to give readers a choice of which cookies to accept, but this choice is offered on the politico site in a way that I don't understand. For some reason, their buttons are not marked "off" or "on", nor even with a "green button". There's no realistic way of reaching these guys anymore, so can anyone here say what it should be -- with actual reasons, i.e. how you *know* that's right. (Does anyone know why Politico would choose an obscure system when it would be just as easy to use something more obvious?) alacarte (talk) 14:36, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
The Issues with the Collaboration with Welt on COVID-19 global response criticisms section
Why is there this emphasis on this particular article? This article did not have much, if any, newsworthy impact, and it and the writers that contributed to it did not win any awards. The current owner of Politico, Axel Springer, has a history of promoting anti-vax sentiments (https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/06/axel-springer-politico-media-scandal-germany-bild/), and I have not seen evidence from credible sources that the Gates Foundation is responsible for misconduct. Also, this section leaves out the detail that Die Welt is a tabloid also owned by Axel Springer, and there isn't even a link to the the Die Welt page. This section also sticks out from the rest of the article since it lacks links altogether and reeks of astroturfing. 2600:1700:2000:E960:915F:67A5:E782:A411 (talk) 19:10, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
Наверное в стиральной машине можно засолить грибы ..
Это я о современной политике пытаюсь порассуждать .. 176.59.206.201 (talk) 01:25, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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