Talk:Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his

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The result was: promoted by Z1720 talk 21:43, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his was written by Benjamin Britten for the tenor voice of Peter Pears, setting the poetry Divine Rapture by Francis Quarles for a memorial concert? Source: [1] and others
  • Reviewed: The Day Before the Revolution
  • Comment: My annual contribution to Britten's birthday, 22 November. I believe that the title and Divine Rapture tell the story without addition, but am open to suggestions.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:43, 11 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Proposing possible alternative hooks, will leave the final choice in hook to the reviewer:

ALT1 ... that the piano accompaniment of Benjamin Britten's Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his has been compared to waves at a shore?

ALT2 ... that Benjamin Britten's 1947 work Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his has been praised for bravely expressing same-sex love when it was dangerous to do so?

Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:46, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the offers, trying to be brief.

• ALT1 is something that could be said about estimated 50 other pieces, and the sentence doesn't even mention what kind of music it is, could be a piano quintet, let alone explain why Canticle.
• ALT2 is the opinion of this reviewer (and others), so would have to be marked as later interpretation. Further issues:
  • it misses the name of Peter Pears, which to mention seems only fair, + it is known.
  • Britten did a lot lot to "hide" the expression, by using text based on the bible, and the double meaning doesn't come across.
  • Why "work" and not saying precisely what it is, - we may have readers who don't even know that Britten was a composer.

At this point, I'd prefer ALT0 which is strictly factual, has Pears and tenor, and explains Canticle by mentioning Song of Songs. I believe that the title is interesting enough not to need extra hookiness. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

shortened ALT0a: ... that Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his was written by Benjamin Britten for the tenor voice of Peter Pears, setting the poetry Divine Rapture by Francis Quarles? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Will review. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 16:44, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - Earwig score is too high on Britten Pears Arts (permalink)

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Prefer ALT0, but ALTs 1 and 2 meet the criteria as well- nominator preferred ALT 0 MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 16:44, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, MyCatIsAChonk! I thought I put enough in quotation marks of the ref, - what do you see? Help in rewording is appreciated if needed, - it's a touchy topic, and I'm afraid to miss the meaning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:58, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, the quotes are just fine- I was referring to unquoted material that could easily be rephrased to not match any source. For example, "...Central Hall, Westminster, on 1 November 1947 as part of a memorial concert for Dick Sheppard, founder of the Peace Pledge Union..." is pulled directly from https://brittenpearsarts.org/news/7-canticle-i-my-beloved-is-mine. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 18:24, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Please check, I tried to rephrase. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

All good now. Hope you can get it to run on the 22nd! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 20:59, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Promoting to Queue 2 per WT:DYK discussion. Hook was reviewed by myself and @AirshipJungleman29:. Z1720 (talk) 21:37, 21 November 2023 (UTC)