Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Inverness Field Club
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The result was no consensus. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 03:06, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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A worthy group, but I couldn't establish that it meets WP:ORG or WP:GNG. No obvious WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 18:52, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:29, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Civic societies such as this have been significant in researching and preserving the past (e.g. this), in developing local civic facilities (which may include the library provision in this case, though that is uncited), and in small-scale financial support for education, but unfortunately it can be difficult to locate sources to demonstrate their notability here. I do feel that the outcome can be to discard information on the clubs and societies which make social life meaningful. (Elsewhere, I have sought to use Wikidata/SPARQL to portray such civic initiatives in Scottish history, from which perspective it would be convenient if this article / item were to survive, but I recognise that is not a sustainable argument for notability here.) A least-bad option which I am considering may be a partial merge into the article on Inverness itself. AllyD (talk) 08:51, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- The Google Books and Scholar links in the nomination find plenty of sources saying that something was published by or presented in a lecture to this club. Of the few that have content actually about it this looks the most promising, but I don't have access to the full text. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:32, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep (or Merge) - Waffling on this one. Here's a block quote from the book above (there's a bit more about James Barron specifically that I didn't quote), and a brief history of the society in a 1916 review.
The relationship between local societies and local journalism was more often a positive and intimate one. Some bodies, such as the Inverness Field Club, made the shrewd move of electing as President the editor of the local newspaper. In his opening address delivered in 1880, James Barron, editor of the Inverness Courier, revealed that he had not been elected on the basis of his 'scientific attainments'. It was, rather, his position as 'middleman ... translating the knowledge and ideas of other men into what the members were pleased to consider a popular form'. Barron also edited the Society's Transactions and had them printed at the office of his newspaper. This practice of using the local newspaper as the printer and publisher of a society's annual proceedings was widespread, the published proceedings often being a collation of accounts already made public through extensive press reports.
— Finnegan, Natural History Societies and Civic Culture in Victorian Scotland
The Inverness Field Club derived its origin forty years ago from a series of lectures then delivered by Professor John Young, M.D., of Glasgow University, whose versatile personality remains a far from colourless memory with many friends and a few critics. The institution he was instrumental in founding (with the late William Jolly as its first president) does honour to the force of his influence upon associated study, and this seventh volume of its Transactions, covering seven years of contributions, is a well-balanced combination of field science with archaeology and history.
— "Review of Transactions of the Inverness Scientific Society and Field Club. Volume VII. 1906-1912". The Scottish Historical Review. 13 (51): 301–301. 1916. ISSN 0036-9241.
- Together, this looks like a weak WP:GNG pass, which I'm inclined to give to a non-contemporary organization. Cheers, Suriname0 (talk) 17:03, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Looking at this topic further, I found a journal review summarising that Inverness Field Club organised a one-week conference about the Highlands during the Middle Ages in July 1980, then the following year published the book which was under review. AllyD (talk) 13:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: The group appears notable but there are no sufficient sources to back up this notability. Mevoelo (talk) 08:25, 01 March 2024 (UTC)
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