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Noting that Elliot has dissociative identity disorder is a pretty big spoiler
[edit]My opinion is that noting Elliot has dissociative identity disorder is a pretty big spoiler. While this is eventually revealed and the astute viewer might suspect it early on, its by no means a given I think. Part of the suspense of the whole series is kind of figuring out whats going on with Elliot psychologically. By putting this in the description of the plot I believe your spoiling the reveal later in the series. 50.83.167.201 (talk) 23:32, 12 July 2021 (UTC) erik150x
- Two issues with that. First, we don't edit for spoilers (see WP:SPOILER) and second, all the relevant episodes have long ago been broadcast and the show has been off the air for three years, well past any threshold for spoilers, which are advance knowledge of plot. At some point, readers must take personal responsibility for what they might learn. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 23:41, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for informing me of the Wikipedia spoiler policy. I was not aware. In general I guess I am not surprised to find spoilers in the 'Plot' section, but in the 'Premise' section it seemed out of place. I personally would not expect to find big spoilers there, no matter how ancient a work might be.
- From Wikipedia section on spoilers:
- 3. Sections that frequently contain spoiler warnings—such as plot summaries, episode lists, character descriptions, etc.—were already clearly named to indicate that they contain plot details. Therefore, further disclaimers would be redundant and unnecessary. 50.83.167.201 (talk) 18:16, 14 July 2021 (UTC) erik150x
- It's often a policy that new editors trip over. You can't apply the logic we'd usually see on a fan site, since this is an encylopedia, thus the personal responsibility. And frankly, where do you draw the line? Spoilers occur before an episode is broadcast, not ad infinitum afterward. Once these episodes ran in the U.S. their content was fair game. This notion that we have to hide content because someone might not have seen an episode is absurd, and endless. I actually once had a discussion with an editor here about why details of an episode of, believe it or not, I Love Lucy, were not spoilers because it had been broadcast over sixty years earlier. It was ridiculous. So we simply don't worry about spoilers here and expect readers to read accordingly. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 19:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- This is an old discussion but I agree that the spoilers are out of place. Shouldn't the premise be dedicated to other information about the show? The plot section could reveal more about the main character.
- For example, the premise of the page on The Brothers Karamazov doesn't reveal much about the story, but other sections rightfully do. Instead, it's more about the themes of the novel and its impact. AlekseyFyodorovich (talk) 03:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Absolutely agree that a HUGE spoiler like this that basically RUINS THE ENTIRE SHOW, should NOT be in the introductionary text. Where do you draw the line? It's pretty simple, detailed descriptions like this are fine in later sections, like plot summaries and character descriptions, but have no place right in the introductionary text. This is even backed up by the article you quoted, which does NOT mention the introductionary text. People read that for a basic overview and not to have the show ruined for them. I'm not sure why we are even discussing this, when this information does 0 good, only harm, it doesn not need to be there. 2A0A:A547:6D84:0:ED10:F131:DCCD:E7FD (talk) 12:30, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- The purpose of a Wikipedia article is not to make a TV show "more enjoyable". --WikiLinuz (talk) 19:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- This information is already in the premise section, it does not need to be in the introductionary text, which should be spoiler-free. Many other language pages handle it this way. Why this insistence on ruining the show for other people when it serves no purpose whatsoever? Putting major spoilers like that into the introduction is irresponsible at best and downright malicious at worst. If the Fight Club article did this, people would lose their shit, so why is this considered okay here? 2A0A:A547:6D84:0:E57A:E467:9F71:8D84 (talk) 10:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Read WP:SPOILERS. --WikiLinuz (talk) 17:49, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- This article changes nothing about my point, which is that the spoiler does not need to be in the INTRODUCTION. It serves no purpose there, as this information is readily available in the premise section for anyone who wants to know more about the show. The introduction is just supposed to give a general overview. I don't get the insistence on ruining this show for other people for no good reason whatsoever. You are robbing other people of the enjoyment of experiencing this show as it was meant to be. And for what? This information is already in the premise section, it should be removed from the introduction. 2A0A:A547:6D84:0:C0DE:9319:F17E:FBEC (talk) 11:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- And bear in mind that the show ended five years ago. We can't endlessly avoid mention of a plot point, however significant, for a show that's long gone. That's absurd. --Drmargi (talk) 21:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Read WP:SPOILERS. --WikiLinuz (talk) 17:49, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- This information is already in the premise section, it does not need to be in the introductionary text, which should be spoiler-free. Many other language pages handle it this way. Why this insistence on ruining the show for other people when it serves no purpose whatsoever? Putting major spoilers like that into the introduction is irresponsible at best and downright malicious at worst. If the Fight Club article did this, people would lose their shit, so why is this considered okay here? 2A0A:A547:6D84:0:E57A:E467:9F71:8D84 (talk) 10:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- The purpose of a Wikipedia article is not to make a TV show "more enjoyable". --WikiLinuz (talk) 19:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's often a policy that new editors trip over. You can't apply the logic we'd usually see on a fan site, since this is an encylopedia, thus the personal responsibility. And frankly, where do you draw the line? Spoilers occur before an episode is broadcast, not ad infinitum afterward. Once these episodes ran in the U.S. their content was fair game. This notion that we have to hide content because someone might not have seen an episode is absurd, and endless. I actually once had a discussion with an editor here about why details of an episode of, believe it or not, I Love Lucy, were not spoilers because it had been broadcast over sixty years earlier. It was ridiculous. So we simply don't worry about spoilers here and expect readers to read accordingly. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 19:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Abandoned user draft
[edit]Please would an interested editor assess the edits at User:Crimsonite~enwiki/wiki/Mr. Robot, incorporate what is useful into the live article, blank the user page as WP:COPYARTICLE, and leave a note here when done? – Fayenatic London 13:54, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- It just looks like a copy-paste of the live article. Nothing to merge. Drovethrughosts (talk) 19:15, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Drovethrughosts thanks – sorry for wasting your time. Blanked. – Fayenatic London 13:54, 22 November 2023 (UTC)