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Requested move 5 June 2024

It has been proposed in this section that Monte Mars be renamed and moved to Mont Mars.

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Monte Mars → Mont Mars – "Mont Mars" is far more widely sourced on the Internet that "Monte Mars". --Simoncik84 (talk) 13:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Simoncik84 (talk) 12:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Favonian (talk) 09:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Mountains of the Alps and WikiProject Mountains have been notified of this discussion. Polyamorph (talk) 10:31, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Simoncik84:

Question: What evidence do you have that "Mont Mars" is a more commonly-used name in English than "Monte Mars"? — hike395 (talk) 13:55, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Evidence supporting the claim of WP:COMMONNAME has been requested. Favonian (talk) 09:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Hike395, please find this evidence: Aosta Valley Tourism Board, Monte Rosa Tourism Board, Aosta Valley Natural Areas and Bard Fort (Alps Museum) official website. Simoncik84 (talk) 15:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Individual examples don't really support the "far more widely sources on the Internet" claim. Some data relevant to WP:COMMONNAME I just found:

Google Ngrams shows "Mont Mars" occurs in English books, but "Monte Mars" does not
Google Trends shows a very small number of search queries for "Mont Mars", but none for "Monte Mars".
I could not find either in Britannica

Not sure this is enough to establish a WP:COMMONNAME — hike395 (talk) 15:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Mont Mars" is the French name, used in the Aosta Valley region. "Monte mars" is the Italian name, used in Piedmont and in the rest of Italy as well, see here (Peakbagger entry), or on the guide book of Touring Club Italiano(here), or on Lonely Planet guide book (here) .--Pampuco (talk) 20:38, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We are talking about sources in English. @Hike395, so the article can be renamed? Simoncik84 (talk) 14:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure I think the proposed move is plausible, but there's so little data that I can't say we've identified the WP:COMMONNAME with high confidence. — hike395 (talk) 17:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]