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June 18

James Wilson (Archdeacon of Manchester)

Reference number 2 in this article is all wrong - please repair if you can. Thank you 125.253.110.95 (talk) 01:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

As the error message says, {{Cite journal}} requires a journal name. I clicked the link but I could not tell what journal this is from. RudolfRed (talk) 01:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

It is from this article - is it a journal or a book, please help. Thank you https://www.gutenberg.org/files/29343/29343-h/29343-h.htm 125.253.110.95 (talk) 01:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi IP 125.253.110.95. When you use the {{cite journal}} template for a citation (like you did here), you need to make sure you add something for the |journal= parameter to avoid getting a "missing periodical" error. All you need to do is re-check the source of the citation and add the name of the missing journal. If you're adding citations, you should make more of an effort to figure out what type they are before doing so. It describes what kind of source it is at the very top of the url you linked to above.

Some other things to consider when citing sources are to not use MOS:ALLCAPS for the name of source being cited in |title= parameter and to avoid excessive quoting when using the |quote= parameter; the former can help avoid a single citation being (unintentionally) given undo emphasis, and the latter can help avoid any possible copyright related issues due to over quoting. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

St Leonards School

see above problem please RE James Wilson and these references - number 13 and 19 - on this page: St Leonards School (are they journals or not?) Thank you again 125.253.110.95 (talk) 01:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Those are both from the Journal of Education. Add that to the "journal=" parameter and the error should go away. RudolfRed (talk) 01:23, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Fixed now Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

CPJ International Press Freedom Awards

I need to add Ferdinand Ayité to the recipients list of this award, in the 2023 section. The source is the same as the other entries for 2023--he just got left off somehow. Tables are not my strong suit, and I've messed it up about 453 times so far. Any assistance would be appreciated. Joyous! Noise! 04:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@Joyous! Done in this edit, via the source editor. Note that you have to alter the rowspan from 4 to 5, which is what was probably catching you out. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

That was exactly the problem. Thank you! Joyous! Noise! 15:46, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello

Wikipedia, are you looking for truth ! I found an artical about my tribe and they involved people not of my family tribe ! without any evidence! and they refused to delete it !

What a shamed !

The article has too many mistakes and it’s full of lies !

will not you remove it and block the people involved ! Umluj-city (talk) 04:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@Umluj-city Hello ! Could you provide a link to the article you mentioned? '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@Umluj-city. I suggest you read Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@Umluj-city: This help desk is for the English Wikipedia and the above post is your only edit here. Special:CentralAuth/Umluj-city shows you have edited the Arabic Wikipedia. We have no authority over other Wikipedia languages and they can have different policies from us. If your concern is with the Arabic Wikipedia then you will have to discuss it there, meaning pages at https://ar.wikipedia.org. I don't know Arabic. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Moved pings

Hi. If a comment containing a ping is cut/pasted somewhere else, will the user(s) be notified again? Thanks. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 06:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

A user will be notified if a ping and signature of the user making the edit are added at the same time. So usually not, but occasionally yes. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 06:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Got it, thanks! '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 06:03, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Wrong info?

I was recently reading the Wikipedia article for Hermitage, Pennsylvania. The article mentions that Žipov, Slovakia, is a twin city. However, I couldn't find any citations to support this claim, and after some searching online, I also wasn't able to unearth any sources that confirm it.

I just wanted to double-check before potentially making any edits to the page. Does anyone happen to have any information or resources that verify Žipov as a sister city? Giantskeleton (talk) 06:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Giantskeleton. The WP:BURDEN falls upon whoever added that information to the article to also provide a citation in support. You can remove it you want, or you can add a template like {{citation needed}} (just make sure to date the template) where the reference should go. It's unsourced content for sure, but it's not really something serious like a WP:BLPREMOVE type of violation; so, perhaps the template would be OK to use in a case like this. For what it's worth, that bit of information was added in December 2022 with this edit, but the person who added it only made one edit with that account; in other words, it could've just be someone messing around. You could try asking at Wikipedia:WikiProject Pennsylvania to see whether that was the case. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Pascal Praud

Hello,

I have made edits on the page Pascal Praud: I’ve added a French IPA translation, removed some very political language (e.g. “archconservative”), and added a list of employers in the infobox as per the sources. But my edits have been reverted and classified as “vandalism”. Could someone help me here? A point of contention seems to be that I remove the term “far-right” from the first sentence (it is still later mentioned in the introduction). But in my previous encounters with Wikipedia edits, I was told it was policy to keep the first sentence neutral: name, birthdate, occupation. I also do not think it is necessary to classify a sports commentator’s political views in the first sentence. Let me know what you think—and if you think I’m justified, please don’t hesitate to restore my additions. Thanks! 10:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC) 2A02:A420:262:6FF0:B998:4CE:9CA7:9BB8 (talk) 10:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

IP editor: This is a content dispute between you and User:AgisdeSparte. Neither of you has commented on the Talk Page of the article, which is the correct way to reach consensus, per our usual process. By using the talk page rather than edit summaries, other interested editors are more likely to get involved. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Official HarmonyOS Next app

Are the devs planning to release a full HarmonyOS NEXT version of the app? Ahri Boy (talk) 12:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@Ahri.boy This is the Help Desk for assistance with editing and using Wikipedia, not general questions. Nevertheless, OpenHarmony#Software development may answer your question. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

If you are asking about the Wikipedia mobile app, Wikipedia does not have a app specialized for the Harmony OS. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 18:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

I already suggested on Phabricator. Ahri Boy (talk) 00:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Mother (video game)

Reference help requested. How do I reference these sources properly? [1][2] Thanks, NintenBOUND (talk) 12:47, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

@NintenBOUND: In that diff, refs 8 and 10 are called for but there's no citation for them to work off of; ref 13 has a mismatch between the template's |archive-date= and actual date of the |archive-url=, as well as no title provided. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

If you are using the visual editor, you can add citations by clicking quotation marks on the top toolbar, choose the appropriate item on "automatic" part (in this case cite website), then fill out the parameters. Note that the ones with * are required to be filled out. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 18:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Ateneo de Zamboanga University

What can I do to improve on this article? Thanks. Raymondsiyluy05 (talk) 17:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

If you are asking about the message This article may rely excessively on sources too closely associated with the subject at the top of the article, the message tells you itself what needs to be done, and there are several links in it that point to pages with more explanation.

If you mean something else, please clarify.

I note that several of the references are to sources published by the university itself. These are not independent, and should not be cited at all, except for the limited purposes explained in WP:SPS. If information in the article is available only from those sources, it should not be in the article (again, unless it meets those limited purposes).

Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 17:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Add sub branch Turk Sial (ترک) in to Sial (سیال) tribe live in Pakistan

Add sub branch of sial (سیال) caste Turk sial (ترک سیال) 223.123.1.213 (talk) 20:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

If you have reliable and independent sources covering the Turk sial, feel free to add the content yourself. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 21:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Copier

Visually impaired I need help with the copier whatever it’s called 2001:5B0:295A:D4E8:C9A8:6EE9:152F:1F5F (talk) 23:28, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by the "copier". --ColinFine (talk) 23:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)