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@This is Paul Hi. Your move was certainly reasonable under WP:NCWWW, but the result isn't great because "2024" does't say that much and "Bushey" doesn't say anything to most people. "Killings of Carol, Hannah and Louise Hunt" has more recognizable elements (names of victims) and is better in totality. Also a fine way to name an article with multiple victims: Murders of Gerald and Vera Woodman (in this case there are three victims which is not the same as two, but the title is still sufficiently concise). I suggest an RM if you disagree. Sincerely —Alalch E. 16:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do disagree, chiefly because naming multiple victims in the title of an article makes the title awkward. Here are a few examples of other articles which follow the location naming convention when multiple victims from the same family were involved:
I think your concern that "2024" does't say that much and "Bushey" doesn't say anything to most people is a flimsy argument, since none of the abovementioned locations would say that much to the majority of readers. You cite a case above where the individuals are named, but all such cases I've found (such as Murders of William Redmond and Helen Phelps) tend to involve two individuals and no more. So I will be requesting a move for that reason. This is Paul (talk) 17:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 July 2024

Killings of Carol, Hannah and Louise Hunt2024 Bushey killings – Requesting move per WP:NCWWW and per naming convention of similar articles where multiple victims are involved. This is Paul (talk) 17:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The proposed title basically rests on "Bushey" as the most distinguishing element, and that can't be good because of low recognizability of this place and weak association with this subject in the minds of most people globally, who will remember this as "that crossbow attack in the UK in which three people were killed". Almost no one will recognize or remember this for "Bushey". Names of the victims in a construction that denotes that three were killed is more recognizable and natural. Names of multiple victims is also a fine way to name an article about an event such as this: Murders of Gerald and Vera Woodman and Murders of William Redmond and Helen Phelps (in this case there are three victims which is not the same as two, but the title is still sufficiently concise, and is actually more concise than the latter).—Alalch E. 18:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - would support something like 2024 Bushey crossbow killings/attack SimplyLouis27 (talk) 18:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]