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A fact from Frutiger Aero appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 31 July 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that despite being invented in the 2000s, Frutiger Aero was not named until 2017?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/July. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Frutiger Aero.

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The result was: promoted by Hey man im josh talk 13:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that an aesthetic from the 2000s has made a resurgence among Generation Z?

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2023/dec/14/frutiger-aero-the-windows-screen-saver-design-trend-taking-tiktok-by-storm

ALT1: ... that despite being invented in the 2000s, Frutiger Aero was not named until 2017? Source: https://www.reeditionmagazine.com/to-the-minute/unveiling-the-mystery-exploring-the-fascinating-world-of-frutiger-aero
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gothus teemo
Comment: I'm not entirely sure who to credit for this page. TechnoSquirrel69 created the draft, Sohom_Datta and I expanded it a lot, and then Queen of Hearts moved it to mainspace. So, I included all four.

Moved to mainspace by Di (they-them) (talk), Queen of Hearts (talk), TechnoSquirrel69 (talk), and Sohom Datta (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

Di (they-them) (talk) 03:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Di: Made a quick copyedit to ALT0, hope you don't mind! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, I don't mind! Di (they-them) (talk) 03:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nice work. Personally, I like ALT1 the best, but ALT0 technically works as well. Epicgenius (talk) 03:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Teh piccy iz anachronistic mebbe <___<;;;

*holds up spork* okiezzzzzzzz so liek heres mah whole thing abt teh piccy >_>

People really did post like that in 2005. I was there. Anyway: this illustration in the article (I'm embedding it in this talk page section) bothers me.

First of all: it's not contemporary. The Commons image came from Flickr, where it was posted in June 2023, as part of a set of several images -- all uploaded by the same artist at around the same time.

Second of all: the beige CRT is an anachronistic nostalgia item. Nobody in 2005 was putting CRTs in their concept art, nobody thought they were aesthetic, and certainly nobody thought they were futuristic. In the mid-2000s, everybody knew what flat panels looked like, and it was obvious they were the future; large rectangular electronics with beige ABS enclosures (of which we had plenty) were generally outdated relics of the 90s and 80s.^[1]

The fact of this image being made in 2023 means that it's just not right in a lot of subtle ways. For example, the style, composition and elements are clearly heavily influenced by vaporwave and seapunk, which occurred some years after the heyday of Frutiger Aero. Most notably, the random asymmetrical composition is from a much later period, as are things like the clamped whites in the semi-transparent water texture (these are a sort of analog emulation/glitchcore thing -- not what people were doing to make Web 2.0 stuff in 2005). The film grain is especially egregious -- this was not part of the sleek look.

I think that, while accurately determining if something really "fits" an aesthetic is of course impossible, at a bare minimum we should try to only use images that are really from the time period. jp×g 🗯️ 15:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with your removal of the image. There are plenty of visuals in Commons that can be used to represent the aesthetic such as the KDE visuals already used instead of an anachronistic image. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 01:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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^ For the pedantic, it may be worth noting that the white and light gray acrylonitrile-butadiene-styrene resins used in consumer electronics enclosures of this period naturally yellow over time with UV exposure. It's true that some came from the factory beige or yellow, but the overwhelming beigeness of nostalgic depictions is mostly based on how they look now, as opposed to how they looked then.

I agree. Plenty of actual examples can be found instead of an art piece anyway. Thriley (talk) 16:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] For the pedantic, it may be worth noting that the white and light gray acrylonitrile-butadiene-styrene resins used in consumer electronics enclosures of this period naturally yellow over time with UV exposure. It's true that some came from the factory beige or yellow, but the overwhelming beigeness of nostalgic depictions is mostly based on how they look now, as opposed to how they looked then.

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