Talk:Phonation
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redirect
Unvoiced redirects here. The article should explain why!
voicing article
Voicing redirects here. Maybe there should be a separate voicing article? By voicing I mean the VOT, etc. of consonants.
Phonation is often mentioned with respect to vowels. But you can still discuss phonation independently from vowels or consonants...
Any other thoughts?
- Ish ishwar 20:59, 2005 Mar 10 (UTC)
- Some would argue that the 'glottals' are just that: independent phonation, rather than actual consonants. kwami 10:55, 2005 July 17 (UTC)
it seems that there is no article for Voice Onset Time (a.k.a. VOT). although this is mentioned in Stop consonant, it is very very brief. - Ish ishwar 21:03, 2005 Mar 10 (UTC)
- Nohat wrote ja reasonable stub soon after you wrote this, which I am linking from this article. kwami 08:17, 2005 July 17 (UTC)
- ah, yes, good. re glottals: i would agree in many cases. there is nice book that i browsed once by Fujimura (i think). i may start a biblio for this article. by the way, i know this is so far linguistically oriented, but is there anything in Wikipedia on falsetto? i havent looked & i also dont know what this is physiologically. any takers? – ishwar (speak) 05:19, 2005 August 13 (UTC)
Found an interesting article that takes a broader look at phonation. However, it specifically excludes discussion of falsetto as not being relevant for normal language. Falsetto presumably involves more of the larynx than just the glottis, however.
definition
I moved the quoted definition to the intro paragraph, since my comments on the glottis are not appropriate to the expanded article. Can whoever added it give the reference? kwami 21:13, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
non-harmonic overtones?
Regarding the sentence: This produces a fundamental tone accompanied by several non-harmonic overtones. I'd like to know why the overtones are non-harmonic. My high school physics has trained me to expect the production of harmonics from a vibrating source, so I find the statement surprising or out of the ordinary. Especially because I've read elsewhere that the vocal cords produce a harmonic series.
- This page seems to make sense of that topic, though giving no more detail on the cause than blaming imperfection of the instrument: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Overtone
Phonation/articulation
The two are not the same thing, but the interwiki links are a mix of articles about phonation and articulation, and the interwiki bots aren't making things easier. How do we fix it? • 辻斬り? 08:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)