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Astrotrain
Astrotrain is edit warring on about ten pages today, he's been blocked twice this month for edit warring and obviously hasnt learned anything for these blocks. Can you have a word.--Vintagekits 23:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma - he [reverted an extensive edit because he didnt like the remove of term assassinated for the article and then refused to justify why. No edits on the talk page.
- Template:IrishAirports - 2 reverts today, 3 out of the last six edits are his reverts. One of the edit summaries stated "see Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-05-20 Lists of Marilyns, flagicons are allowed in templates" - I questions the mediator on that cabal and he said he didnt endorse the use of the Ulster banner on the template. No edits on the talk page.
- Union Flag - 2 reverts today. First edit summary stated "remove ramble in poor English" - removal of referenced material because you thought it was poor English!!! I fixed the English up a bit and reinsterted it with the messege " dont think that reference material should be removed on the basis of "poor English" - he reverted it again citing "remove poorly written text". No edits on the talk page.
- Template talk:United Kingdom regions, 2 reverts today,
- Template:UK subdivisions - 3 reverts in the past 18 hours.
- Template:AONBs in Northern Ireland 2 reverts inthe past day, 3 out of the last six edits are his reverts.
Now to his credit he is talking on some subjects but he is ignoring everything that is being said. Most of the edit warring (apart from the Mountbatten revert, which falls under WP:POINT) is based on the use of the Ulster banner, as you know there is no current concensus to use it except in some sporting contexts but he doesnt acknowledge that. All very frustrating.--Vintagekits 00:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- It takes two to tango! and you were blocked indefinitely until recently! --Counter-revolutionary 00:13, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- Well as I am not reverting its a strange tango! whats my un/blocking got to do with it, wernt you recently blocked for harassing other users and making derogatory implications!! two can play that childish game but I would rather not. I would rather sort issues out these days, as can be seen on yours and Astros talk pages.--Vintagekits 00:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- It takes two to tango! and you were blocked indefinitely until recently! --Counter-revolutionary 00:13, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
SPAN Page
I've done some major work on the SPAN page and I feel it is now ready to be reviewed. I've added the tag to it (this page may meet the requirements for speed deletion), but like I said before I'm new to this process. What happens now?
ChipMD 02:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Signature help
Hey, this is prolly the wrong place to be asking, but I thought I'd give it a shot: how do folks alter their signature? Thanks --Endlessdan 20:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Signatures tells you most of what you need to know. You go into "my preferences", and choose 'signature'. There's the option of a raw signature, but you need to know HTML to work that one. This is what I use. For more exotic signatures, there are people here who can maybe help you out. I got mine from my friend User:NikoSilver and his signature shop. I can do simple ones myself, if it's any help to you - Alison ☺ 23:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Barnstar
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The Original Barnstar | |
I'm not supposed to give 2 barnstars in 2 months to the same person, but I couldn't resist... --Hirohisat Talk 05:41, 15 August 2007 (UTC) |
- Wow! Thank you so much :) - Alison ☺ 06:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Douglas Ousterhout article tags
I've removed the tags per WP:AfD - If the page can be improved, this should be solved through regular editing, rather than deletion. In this case I think notability is not the issue but reliable sources might be, in any case the answer is constructive editing to make the article better. I've left this message for the potential deleter but I suspect the only way to fend of advances will be some reconstructive surgery on the article itself! Benjiboi 10:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
NPA
Alison could you have a word with User:Aatomic1 for personal attacks on editors in edit summaries.--padraig 17:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Done. Snide comments like that, even in edit summaries, are unhelpful - Alison ☺ 18:16, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- I am sorry I truly believe what I saidhere is appropriate. I must stick by my insinuations and take the consequences. Aatomic1 18:35, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- So be it. Consider yourself duly warned - Alison ☺ 23:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- I am sorry I truly believe what I saidhere is appropriate. I must stick by my insinuations and take the consequences. Aatomic1 18:35, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I was wary of doing it myself as this is (thankfully) such a rare occurrence; perhaps bold would have been best, huh? :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 20:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks.Well, I did what I thought was right under the circumstances, wihout necessarily setting a precedent. It would be in the worst of taste if someone took over his account or defaced his userpage. Given his profile and standing, I don't doubt there would be those who would do just that - Alison ☺ 21:24, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
could you look at this please
team editing to make provisional SF seem more electorally attractive
I am being accused of being part of a team disrupting his edits not much of a team as it seems I inadvertently broke a wikipedia rule on reverting. This is the second time since I started editing with wikipedia that I have been accused of something. It's all a bit silly really could you comment on this please thanks. BigDunc 22:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- To be honest, I'd rather not. You've already barely escaped being blocked for 3RR today & indeed, if User:Spartaz hadn't got in when he did, I'd have blocked you myself. In fact, I'd rather you approached Spartaz on the matter as I make a point of steering clear of Irish political articles. I'd much rather you approached another admin as I'm stepping back from that area - Alison ☺ 23:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Just so you know, my patience with the disruption going on in those articles ended late last night and I'll be using the block button if it continues today. The only reason I didn't block BigDunc was because I was trying to be even handed to both sides of the dispute. I did not give W. Frank a further block when he resumed edit warring after his block expired yesterday morning because he initially responded to a request to stop. He resumed the disruption yesterday eveining so I will take appropriate measures if this continues. Spartaz Humbug! 06:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- I can appreciate that, Spartaz. I'm doing my utmost to contain my impatience with the lot of the, to be honest. Furthermore, I have my own POV which I keep in check re. those articles. I've already made that clear to everyone but I still keep getting asked to get involved by all sides & it's beginning to wear me down. Right now, they all need to stop it. - Alison ☺ 07:00, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Just so you know, my patience with the disruption going on in those articles ended late last night and I'll be using the block button if it continues today. The only reason I didn't block BigDunc was because I was trying to be even handed to both sides of the dispute. I did not give W. Frank a further block when he resumed edit warring after his block expired yesterday morning because he initially responded to a request to stop. He resumed the disruption yesterday eveining so I will take appropriate measures if this continues. Spartaz Humbug! 06:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
UCAS Protection - Opinion?
Alison, yesterday you semi-protected Shia LaBeouf for me, as vandalism was high. Today, I looked at the UCAS article, and found levels of vandalism similar to that of LaBeouf, if not higher. Reason being, this is the company that deals with University entrance in the UK, and results are released tomorrow, with a whole host of processes in the weeks to follow (I should know, I went through them last year :P ). I requested it to be semi-protected, but Royalguard11 rejected it, stating that protection isn't preemptive. I know it's not, but vandalism's pretty bad now, though he disputes this. Could you please take a look, and tell me what you think? Cheers, TheIslander 00:30, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- I think that Royalguard11 made the proper decision, to be honest. I note that more vandalism has occurred since then and have added the article to my watchlist. If it gets much worse, I'll protect it myself but right now, it's not too bad - Alison ☺ 00:37, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- OK then, thanks for your help ;) TheIslander 00:38, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Marxist philosophy
When asked to participate in a dispute, I'm apt to apply the Horse Feathers philosophy as espoused by Professor Quincy Adams Wagstaff:
- I don't know what they have to say
- It makes no difference anyway;
- Whatever it is, I'm against it
- No matter what it is or who commenced it,
- I'm against it!
- Your proposition may be good
- But let's have one thing understood:
- Whatever it is, I'm against it
- And even when you've changed it or condensed it,
- I'm against it!
Baseball Bugs 07:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Excellent. Very apt indeed :) - Alison ☺ 07:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to see that you're up at this hour. Come to think of it, I'm sorry to see that I'm up at this hour. :) Baseball Bugs 07:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Almost 1am here but happy to say that I'm leaving work here in a minute. It's all go around here - Alison ☺ 07:40, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Aha, a left-coaster. And now that you're leaving work, you can go home and be on wikipedia full time. Baseball Bugs 07:42, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Almost 1am here but happy to say that I'm leaving work here in a minute. It's all go around here - Alison ☺ 07:40, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to see that you're up at this hour. Come to think of it, I'm sorry to see that I'm up at this hour. :) Baseball Bugs 07:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
quick thanks
Hi Alison, thanks for your welcome back greeting! I'm only partially back, because I'm quite busy with various things. While I'm at it, thanks for protecting my page during my absence! --Kyoko 12:42, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Delighted to! And it's lovely to see you back on here, even if it's only for a flying visit :) - Alison ☺ 13:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Alison, sorry to bother you again (I really must start leaving you alone...), but I have a problem. User:Gladboy is being a pain, in lots of ways, but I'm not quite sure it's vandalism, as such. He's uploading tons of copyvio images (OrphanBot's having a whale of a time), removing AfD templates and reverting edits left, right and centre. I'm placed a few different warnings on his page, he ignores them, I've taken this up on the admin intervention noticeboard, no one's replied, I would pop this on the 'request a ban' page (or whatever it's called), but I'm just not 100% sure that it counts as vandalism. Could you take a look? I'm truely sorry to bother you again. Cheers, TheIslander 13:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Hi there. I've had a word with this editor. They look like they have newbie problems, is all. We'll see how things go but if they persist, they'll end up blocked for a short while - Alison ☺ 13:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks Alison, you're a star. Just one more question: if I now go and revert his edits to Bodger and Badger, will I be in violation of 3RR? In fact, would I violate 3RR by reverting any edit of his that adds copyrighted material, or removes AfD templates? I'm not quite sure of the rules. Thanks, TheIslander 13:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- (ec) If it's copyvio material or "simple vandalism", then go for it. See WP:3RR#Exceptions & thanks for the hard work here :) Ask away on my page - I don't mind at all - Alison ☺ 13:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
hi alison i'm very but i new i would also like to aploigise to theislander i just don't know what to do would you be able to help me
gladboy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gladboy (talk • contribs)
- That's perfectly all right. I can see you've been creating BBC articles but there are a few problems and it's obvious that your work is done in good faith. I've no doubt that between myself and theIslander, we should be able to get you up and running quickly enough - we were all new editors at one time :) It's gone 6am here and I've to get to bed but I'll be back on-line in about 4 hours and I'll see what I can do. In the meantime, I'll add a welcome template to your talk page. Best thing, maybe, is to have a read through our help pages and hints & see what we allow here - Alison ☺ 13:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Appology accepted ;). Your edits certainly seem to be in good faith; there are just a few rules that you need to be aware of, particularly WP:NFC (with regards to images), and WP:N (with regards to your new article). I'm certainly happy to help, just ask anytime on my talk page ;) Regards, TheIslander 13:35, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you ;)
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The Special Barnstar | |
For answering the constant questions of a particular editor who has latched on to one particular admin, as he feels that she is remarkably helpful, kind and genial. Thank you ;) TheIslander 14:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC) |
- Thank you :) Glad to be able to help! - Alison ☺ 05:30, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Help me, I'm being Wikistalked!
I am being Wikistalked by another Wikipedian who goes by the name of CyberGhostface. He keeps reverting edits made on my discussion page, among other things! I have asked him to stop, but he refuses! Please contact me for details! Is there anything that can be done to stop his harassing behavior? 24.168.46.238 13:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- I strongly suggest you take a look at this user's edits history and mine to see how much is actually 'stalking'.--CyberGhostface 15:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have asked this guy TIME AND TIME AGAIN to leave me alone, yet he refuses to do so. He is CLEARLY in violation of Wikipedia rules reguarding stalking and harassment, so I must ask that he be dealt with appropriately by a Wikipedia Administrator. If he continues to stalk and harass me and Wikipedia does nothing to stop him, I will exercise my rights under the law to contact the proper law enforcement authorities, as he is in violation of cyberstalking laws in my state. Thank you for your concern, and your understanding! 24.168.46.238 15:48, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Here's an example of my 'harrassment'. He blanked User:Spirot's talkpage, writing "Good riddance!" I revert his edits and give him a warning. Thats about as far as it goes. If he stops vandalizing Wikipedia, I won't have to bother him.--CyberGhostface 15:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for responding to Bendono's request to block the user for 31 hours. I notice that the gaijin page was not reverted to its last non-contentious edit. Would it be alright for one of us to revert the page or should you do it? What's usually appropriate? J Readings 14:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Adding my site link to Wikipedia
can you add my brad pitt site to the brad pitt section, the page is proceted my link is http://bradpittweb.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradpittweb (talk • contribs)
- Hi there. I've answered this on your talk page - Alison ☺ 23:57, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
NI flag, again...
Edit wars going to flare up, I think. Might want to protect Template:NIR (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) as well. Will (talk) 19:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- It's funny that the Northern Ireland flag has no orange in it, and the Republic of Ireland flag does. I used to wear an orange-colored shirt on St. Patrick's Day, and nobody got the joke. I've got a hunch they would in Belfast, though. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 19:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- There is no edit war on this I explained the use that this template plays in sport articles to User_talk:Fennessy on his [page] and as well on the article talk page, he has accepted the reason that the template can't be altered for now, so protection is not necessary.--padraig 19:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Padraig, you'll have to take this up with the protecting admin, User:Riana as it would be inappropriate for me to overturn her admin action - Alison ☺ 19:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Alison I have no problem with the template being currently protected, I was just pointing out that it was unnecessary in the first place, as the dispute had already been ended before hand and the editor who had been altering it now accepts why the template can't currently be altered.--padraig 19:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- That's good. Thanks for letting me know - Alison ☺ 19:59, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Alison I have no problem with the template being currently protected, I was just pointing out that it was unnecessary in the first place, as the dispute had already been ended before hand and the editor who had been altering it now accepts why the template can't currently be altered.--padraig 19:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Padraig, you'll have to take this up with the protecting admin, User:Riana as it would be inappropriate for me to overturn her admin action - Alison ☺ 19:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- There is no edit war on this I explained the use that this template plays in sport articles to User_talk:Fennessy on his [page] and as well on the article talk page, he has accepted the reason that the template can't be altered for now, so protection is not necessary.--padraig 19:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Nigger (disambiguation)
Hello, Alison. I just wanted to let you know that Nigger (disambiguation), an article you recently unprotected at my request, has not yet received any vandalism. You made the right decission :-) Happy editing! --Boricuaeddie 22:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Wow!! You obviously made the correct decision in reporting it to WP:RPP, too. Cool :) I remember my unprot comment at the time was like, "I must be crazy here to unprotect this!" - Alison ☺ 22:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Of course, now that it's been said .... :) - Alison ☺ 22:15, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Don't worry. That's what watchlists are for :-) --Boricuaeddie 22:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Loligo_vulgaris.jpg/90px-Loligo_vulgaris.jpg)
Eddie has given you a squid! Squids somehow promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! --Boricuaeddie 22:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Oh cool! Thanks, Eddie. :) - Alison ☺ 22:28, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yum... live sushi. :b Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 22:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Mm?
Oh, right. The Winer. Yeah, might as well re-up it to full. DS 23:40, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Fixed. Sorry about that - Alison ☺ 23:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Dave Winer edit war
Thanks for handling the protection request for this page. I have asked on Ryulong's page if it is appropriate to get Nick Irelan added to the list of banned users. If this is a possibility then it might be worth doing the bookkeeping to submit all his sockpuppets at WP:SSP. Or does he have to do a lot more bad things before this can be considered? Thanks, EdJohnston 23:49, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Hi there. I didn't actually "officially" handle the request - User:DragonflySixtyseven did, but I ended up clashing with hir protection. Not to worry. Re. Nick Irelan, I'm not familiar with the case, though it looks like there's a lot of socking going on over on that article. There's no point in trying to block every one of them. If the trouble is really, really bad, there's Wikipedia:Community sanction noticeboard but that's a truly last resort - Alison ☺ 23:55, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Advice for a newbie
Hi Alison, I'm sorry to bother you, but I've got several messages on my IP address talk page User_talk:128.184.132.11 that I don't understand. This is going to sound dumb, but as far as I know I never edited any of the pages mentioned. I must have done it by accident (sneezed? fell asleep on keyboard?). I'm really sorry I put you to the trouble of reverting my dumb mistakes. I have a user account User:Kushami now, which seems to be going okay. 128.184.132.11 02:36, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Hi there. I just replied on your talk page - Alison ☺ 05:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Blocked on Wictionary
Alison, I'm wondering if you know anything about Wictionary. I was unrightfully blocked from it for abusing multiple accounts. Since they don't have unblock templates, how do I appeal for an unblock there? LOZ: OOT 06:45, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Forget I even asked. Sorry for damaging your talk page with my question. LOZ: OOT 06:53, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- No problem at all :) - Alison ☺ 22:29, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- It just frustrates me so much the way I just join, and all of a sudden, a guy named Connel MacKenzie just up and blocks me for abusive sockpuppetry when I never even had an account there before! And then I send him a message, and he instantaneously deletes them on sight (at least I think he does)! IT REAllY, REALLY ANGER'S ME!!! Oh, boy. I need to take a deep breath and relax. Ahhhhhh...
- No problem at all :) - Alison ☺ 22:29, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
But I'm just wondering if you know of anything that could help me at the present with this predicament. And I'm sorry for the way I acted a second ago. It just, it just makes me so mad that a user would just block somebody with such extreme prejudice. Can you help me? LOZ: OOT 07:32, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Block on User_talk:75.21.187.140
The block tag on User_talk:75.21.187.140 seems to be missing a closing }. As I'm not an admin, I don't have the right to fix it, but I thought you might want to know. spazure (contribs) 06:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Fixed it about 20 minutes later. Good catch :) BTW - as a non-admin, it's perfecly okay to make good-faith edits to stuff like block messages where there's been some obvious error. Be bold! - Alison ☺ 22:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
— $PЯINGεrαgђ 17:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- That's a new one... edit warring over a pianist. He might not have been the greatest, but he was definitely a key player. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 18:03, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- I personally think Horowitz was better than he was, but I certainly am not about to add that to his article. — $PЯINGεrαgђ 18:11, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- H-O, R-O-W, I-T-Z spells "Horowitz"
- Sunday night I took my girlfriend Peggy
- To watch him play a concert at Carnegie
- V-L, A-D-I-M-I, R, that's "Vladimir"
- And he plays piano good
- Like a real piano player should
- Horowitz! Hear-hear!
- Now, if you have any clue as to where that came from, you deserve a gold star. :) Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 18:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- No Google (as I expected) or MSN (I hoped the real search engine would have it) ;) hits so it must not be notable. :P — $PЯINGεrαgђ 18:27, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- I found it in Google, but I knew what to look for: "Allan Sherman" plus "Horowitz", and here's one of many sites that found it: [1] What's not necessarily clear from that, though, is that it's from a three-part medley of George M. Cohan songs with different words... specifically, "Mary is a Grand Old Name", "H-A-R-R-I-G-A-N", and "Give My Regards to Broadway". Obscurity R Us. :) Now, what is the point of this otherwise? Well, there's a song about Horowitz by a well-known singer. Does that other guy have a song about him? For that matter, is he on a bubble-gum card? "How can you say someone is great who has never been on a bubble-gum card?" That pushy editor has some 'splainin' to do. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 18:39, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Well, it never fails to amaze me regarding what people are passionate over & this editor has a thing about pianists, I guess. All I can do is try to reason with them and ensure they understand the whole concept of WP:NPOV as it applies here. They're obviously a dedicated fan of Sviatoslav Richter ... - Alison ☺ 20:17, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- It is not possible to claim that any artist is the greatest, obviously, because it's all a matter of opinion. Meanwhile, I was wondering... when the young Sviatoslav ("Svi" to his friends) was first learning to play, did he practice Richter scales? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:31, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
False committed identity use on user page
Hello, I'm concerned about this user User:Wikisteph888 who has a false committed identity algorithm. It's very disconcerting as this user has recently applied for admin-ship, though was denied. I don't know if Wikipedia has a policy dealing with this type of incident. In my opinion this lessens the reliability of Wikipedia. Wikipedia has enough problems as it is. Adding false information such as this, where people who are unfamiliar with hash strings, will assume this user has indeed a commented identity. I believe this borders on fraud, and needs to be addressed. Yet, I'm not sure on how to go about this. I do not want to accuss someone of fraud by posting on the user page, so I thought should ask a more experienced user on the procedure. Thanks in advance. Biomet 19:21, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- I am pretty sure that is not fraud. I am sure anybody who looked at that would know it is a a.) a mistake or b.) a joke. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- This user's first edit was vandalism; this user hasn't actually "contributed" to wikipedia at all. It looks like some person is just noodeling around with their user page, etc. That includes a clearly silly committed identity. As such, it isn't fraud. I would hope we have a policy for users who primarily exist to edit their own user page. But I can't think of where it might be. Thoughts? Wikipedia would not be at a loss if we blocked the account, but the only rule I can think of is WP:IAR. Rklawton 19:44, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- But, would wikipedia be any better because we blocked it? I think it would be a hard pressed case to make that argument. As long as they are poking around there userspace, let them do it. They may decide to expand their editing habits into articles of a topic that interest them which would be a gain for this project. Perhaps some gentle prodding into article writing might be worthwhile? Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- This user's first edit was vandalism; this user hasn't actually "contributed" to wikipedia at all. It looks like some person is just noodeling around with their user page, etc. That includes a clearly silly committed identity. As such, it isn't fraud. I would hope we have a policy for users who primarily exist to edit their own user page. But I can't think of where it might be. Thoughts? Wikipedia would not be at a loss if we blocked the account, but the only rule I can think of is WP:IAR. Rklawton 19:44, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, first off, there's no way that anyone had committed a fraudulent act here. As what RK says, they're just noodling around in their userspace and getting a feel for editing here. Give them a chance to prove themselves and get comfortable with editing. I think the best approach right now would be to leave a message and ask them if they need any help to get started in main space. Let's not scare them off - Alison ☺ 20:15, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Im three steps ahead of you allie! (read my posts on acalamari's page), and ive already offered to help! Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 20:16, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Chris - you're totally awesome! Way ahead of me here :) - Alison ☺ 20:18, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Im three steps ahead of you allie! (read my posts on acalamari's page), and ive already offered to help! Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 20:16, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry if it appears I'm trying to cause problems, I'm not. After reading many articles and their discussion pages I've become a bit concerned. I've also been reading page after page of policies and guidelines of Wikipedia. There are so many it is quite difficult to find everything, as they are not all in one place. Until I learn the "ropes" I'll begin serious articles and edits. Here is a link to the administration request and the suggestions for improvement to the user above. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Wikisteph888 Biomet 20:20, 17 August 2007 (UTC) PS, the reason I said it may be fraud, is this person has asked for power on Wikipedia, therefore the commited identity may be for personal gain in this area. Biomet 20:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- (ec) Well, you're absolutely right about the need to reduce nonsense on Wikipedia. However, we need to balance that with the fact that we get hundreds of new editors per day and we need to cut them a little slack. They won't be as familiar as we are of the rules and arcane quirks of the system that we take for granted. At best, they're an over-zealous newbie editor, at worst an amateur wikivandal. Either way, there's no big issue here and I'm certainly not about to block them unless they step majorly out of line here - Alison ☺ 20:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Thank you very much. You are correct. Myself a newbie, I should take heed. =) Biomet 20:29, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
I meant to say this earlier, but just so you know, I sent one. :) Acalamari 22:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Replied - Alison ☺ 22:29, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
Last chance
Ok, I've been watching this commentary from the sidelines here and your behaviour has reached the point of being downright incivil and disruptive. Blanking others' comments with [2] with "rm nonsense by agenda pushing baby, whaa, whaaa, whaaa", is completely out of order. Your edit history is replete with examples of personal attacks and snide comments. Next one warrants a block for incivility - Alison ☺ 22:58, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
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If you continue to make personal attacks on other people, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. - Alison ☺ 22:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Alison, I am done editing at Rove. I am done replying to Ryan. OK?--Tom 23:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Answered on your talk page - Alison ☺ 23:11, 17 August 2007 (UTC)