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Featured content

Hello and welcome to our new WikiProject! Do we have any Czech-related featured content on EN Wiki? From what I can recall, I don't know about any. There are two Good Articles dealing with the Polish minority there (both written by me) and one photo is now nominated at WP:FPC. Anything else? - Darwinek 13:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about any :( ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 13:10, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Is it possible to list Featured or Quality images on Commons? Jan.Kamenicek 20:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think it could be possible somehow. - Darwinek 21:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I failed to find Featured ones, but here are some Quality: Jindřichův Hradec, Olomouc Trinity, Haná Easter eggs. Jan.Kamenicek 23:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nice pics. I really like the Easter eggs one. I am from Silesia, so we really celebrate Easter seriously. :) Haná is nice, too :). I study at UPOL, so I like it a lot. - Darwinek 00:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

proposal for images transfer

It would be very usefull to transfer images from Czech Wikipedia especially from Catagory cs:Kategorie:Public domain obrázky vytvořené úřady České republiky to commons. There are many images so they can be renamed uniformly now. I think without diacritics is better for commons but it is not necessary. Examples:

I know that there are many small images. But there are not available better images now. It will help wikipedias in other languages (especially German wikipedia) too surely. Images of Coat of Arms and of Flags are only images available for many cities now, it is much better to see any image in the article, see for example Uničov article. --Snek01 15:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Sure, go ahead, it will only help. Next step is to insert infobox to those articles, they then look totally better. See Opava, for example. Don't forget to use {{PD-CzechGov}} template. - Darwinek 15:45, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

second version of barnstar

  • Second version of barnstar. Typing this: {{subst:BoNM-Czech|message ~~~~ }} gets you this:
The Czech Barnstar of National Merit 
This is a test of the barnstar system. Had this been a real barnstar, you would have been notified. Ling.Nut 20:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Looks pretty sharp- good work. Does the yellow on the ribbon symbolize anything? Olessi 20:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I know of. It is just the combination that came out when I was playing with the colors. I can change it, but it would be a pain. If the colors aren't somehow unacceptably offensive, I would prefer to leave them alone. But if some color has some strong negative connotations, I can change it. --Ling.Nut 21:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. Colours are just fine. :) Good work. - Darwinek 21:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. :-) Later! --Ling.Nut 22:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Looks pretty cool ;) ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 08:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I inquired about the yellow since the red and white symbolize Bohemia to me. It is my understanding that the barnstar has to go through Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals to become official. Olessi 18:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice graphics, but I have to ask why to feature only Bohemian colours and Coat of arms? – Yarp 16:13, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
For modern Czech Republic we can use the first version of barnstar representing all three colours. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 16:14, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This "first version" might be better, but I cannot see/find it anywhere(?) – Yarp 16:54, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Check the project page ;-) ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 17:17, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(undent) As I said repeatedly earlier, I can change the colors. But whatever! ;-) --Ling.Nut 16:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I checked it and it doesn't need to go through the official proposal. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 23:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

Prosím, jak se zde navrhuje článek ke smazání? Tenhle nesmysl tu nemůže zůstat: Ivan Špaček. Zajímalo by mne, jestli ten pán vůbec existuje? Na české wikipedii to jasně vypadá na smazání. cs:Wikipedie:Hlasování o smazání/Ivan Špaček.

Please, How is possible propose article for deletion? This nonsense can not be here: Ivan Špaček. Does he exist? In cs: wikipedie is going to deletion clear. Voting for deletion on cs. wikipedia. Cinik 20:35, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I have nominated it here: [1]. Please vote. - Darwinek 20:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New articles

May I recommend splitting them into a subpage (you can include it where it is now as a template) and tagging it with Category:Wikipedia new articles? You could also employ User:AlexNewArtBot to make finding Czech-related articles easier.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  00:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will take a look on it, thanks for suggestion. How to employ AlexNewArtBot ? ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 23:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:CzechProjectBarnStar.gif

Nice. But there already is Image:BoNM – Czech Republic.png. May I suggested moving the gif to commons and adding it to the BoNM category? -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  00:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That png is much more better, but as Olessi suggested, it is in medieval colours so I propose to use it for medieval history and the gif for the modern history deserts. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 23:27, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would also rename it to Bohemian Barnstar. Jan.Kamenicek 06:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Which one ? ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 08:07, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This one. It is very nice, I really like its design. Despite this it would be great if some symbols representing the whole Czech Republic could be added. (Although it is true that the so called small coat of arms of the Czech Republic contains only Bohemian lion). I also have to admit that the regular coat of arms of the Czech Republic would not look so well on the ribbon. Does anybody have any idea how to make it look less Bohemian and more Czech without any loss on the quality of its design? Jan.Kamenicek 20:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What about completely new design – something like on this sketch?. It would contain all three major CoA's if someone makes to draw it… – Yarp Talk 11:10, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yarp, that looks great. But I would like to keep that barnstar because it simply looks great. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 11:36, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(undent) Hi again..I can probably make (almost) anything you want, if you tell me exactly what it is.. I don't check these pages often, sorry... I'll look at the sketch above and see if it's something I can do.. but let me know what exactly you want etc. I'm pretty busy but can do things once in a while. later! --Ling.Nut 19:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have already proved that you are very skilled in drawing. The Yarp's sketch looks as a good idea to me. It would be very nice, if you could make something of it. I think that the sketch says everything important - the award would contain Bohemian Lion, Moravian Eagle as well as Silesian Eagle in their original colours, as they can be seen inside the Coat of Arms of the Czech Republic. It would be good if the colours of their backgrounds could be kept as well, but my imagination is not big enough to say, whether their combination would look nice. Jan.Kamenicek 20:32, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have just remembered where this idea had come from to my head – the emblem of the Prague Castle Guard here (top right). – Yarp Talk 22:07, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll do the best I can to make something similar to the sketch above. With that many colors and images, it won't be the cloth-style badge of the one I made previously. But I think I can put something together. IT will take a few days, since I am busy with other work. I'll shoot for 1 week to completion. --Ling.Nut 01:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Czechoslovak Legions

I left a question there: shall we rewrite the lead to encompass the WWII formation or does it have a better name?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  18:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Czech Republic higher child welfare ranking than US, UK, France, Austria

UNICEF ranks well-being of British, U.S. children last in industrialized world 'The report concluded that there was no obvious relationship between levels of child well-being and per-capita gross domestic product.

"The Czech Republic, for example, achieves a higher overall rank for child well-being than several much wealthier countries including France, Austria, the United States and the United Kingdom."' --Ling.Nut 16:34, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Guideline

I started a guideline about the article's name, please see it here Article's title and add your comments. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 22:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ribbons

I created a couple of ribbons, please review them here. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 13:21, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

barnstar, new version

Ummm, well, not as nice as I had hoped... Typing {{subst:Template:BoNM-Czech2}} will get you this:

The Czech Barnstar of National Merit 
This is another test of the barnstar system --Ling.Nut 21:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great, but the star is little bit small, what about this:
File:BoNM – Czech Republic2bigger.png The Czech Barnstar of National Merit 
This is another test of the barnstar system --Ling.Nut 21:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 21:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I like it very much, too. I think it looks better with the smaller star. Jan.Kamenicek 22:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm agnostic with respect to star sizes. :-) Y'all decide for yourselves which you like better... and now I have to write a term paper about reduplication in Amis. :-) Later!--Ling.Nut 22:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(undent) Ooops! I forgot to make the background transparent. Neither of the images have a transparent background... --Ling.Nut 14:57, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

what about changing the yellow background field to white? Cepek 20:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
bad idea, the colors would be in wrong order. Cepek 20:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Minor political figure

I am creating a stub for Hubert Ripka - anyone care to add to it. Jackiespeel 18:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Expulsions and forced migrations of ethnic minorities after World War II

Here is a dialogue that occurred on Talk:Expulsion of Germans from Czechoslovakia after World War II

==Expulsion of Hungarians should be mentioned==
The same the arrival of Czechs from Silesia.
Xx236 13:03, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I had given this some thought and deliberately decided to omit the mention of other ethnic groups because the title of the article is "Expulsion of Germans...". Can you make a case that we should expand the scope to discuss other movements of people within Czechoslovakia? I think it would change the title of the article. Perhaps a better solution would be to start another article to cover the history of Czechoslovakia during this time period. --Richard 15:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This is really a difficult subject. I think that the article has been started well. Should we also talk here about the expulsion of Czechs from Slovakia? Cepek 17:44, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The background behind the creation of this article is that it is a subsidiary article of Expulsion of Germans after World War II. In fact, the text of the first revision of this article was lifted from Expulsion of Germans after World War II. There are "sister" articles Expulsion of Germans from Poland after World War II and Expulsion of Germans from Romania after World War II. The point is that the focus of these articles is on expulsion of Germans as opposed to any other ethnic group. I think the rationale here is that these expulsions are controversial because of public attention focused on them by the Federation of Expellees and historians such as de Zayas, Overmans and Nitschke.
For this reason, I would oppose a widening of scope to cover all migrations of peoples in Czechoslovakia at the end of World War II. However, I can imagine creating an article titled Ethnic homogenization of Czechoslovakia after World War II. The new article would reference this one and also cover the expulsion of Hungarians and the expulsion of Czechs from Slovakia. Does this approach make sense to you? --Richard 18:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, absolutely! Cepek 19:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry if I was unprecize. I believe that the expulsion of Hungarians should be mentioned/linked, eg. in "See also", not described here. The arrival of Czechs from Silesia should be described here, because they partially replaced expelled Germans.Xx236 06:19, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The net of this discussion is to propose a new article titled Ethnic homogenization of Czechoslovakia after World War II. We are seeking your opinion about whether this article should be created and, if so, what the title should be.

--Richard 15:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Antonín Dvořák userbox

I created User:Olessi/Userboxes/Dvorak for fans of Antonín Dvořák. Olessi 18:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. But if I add it to my page I will choose a bit different background colour;) – Yarp Talk 19:23, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Does it display incorrectly for you? I wanted to use the colors of Bohemia in it. Olessi 19:46, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I created some variations at User:Olessi/Userboxes/Dvorak. Which looks best? Olessi 20:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Karel Čapek

It is well known that the word robot was first used by Karel Čapek in his play R.U.R. The lesser known fact is that Karel had credited his brother Josef as the true author of the word.

Originally, the article used to say [2] that Čapek originally intended to call the artificial creature "dělňas"; I have never heard of the word in relation with robots. The claim seems to come from some Slovak blog, and as far as I know, it's incorrect. In a Lidové noviny article (Czech, English) Čapek stated that his original word was "laboři", and since he didn't like the word (seeing it as too artificial), Josef suggested "roboti".

Now the question: where did the blogger get the word "dělňas"? Is it referenced anywhere, or is it simply a mistake on his part? - Mike Rosoft 13:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would guess that the blogger gets his information from the very same source as the late Erich von Däniken --Cepek 15:27, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have had a discussion with Juro on this topic; I am copying it here for reference.

I have reverted your edit of the article. The website mentioning "dělňas" [3] is somebody's blog, and as a matter of fact it's inaccurate - the Čapek's article in Lidové noviny says something quite different (Czech, English). Karel Čapek intended to call the creatures "laboři", but he didn't like the word himself. When he told his brother Josef that he didn't know how to call them, Josef suggested "roboti". And of course, the word "robota" exists in the Czech language as well; in modern Czech, it normally refers to feudal labour. (I already stated that in the article's talk page.) Regards, Mike Rosoft 07:53, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am well aware of the use of "robota" in most European languages. The problem is that the blog mentions an article from 1930 (i.e. another article), that I read the same story several times elsewhere in he past and that the cited article does not deal with the origin and certainly does not aim at mentioning all alternatives. So, unless this is someone's huge hoax, what the blog says is correct. Since the old newspaper is not accessible online, I do not know how to prove this, someone would have to go to the National Library (in Prague). Juro 14:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I wouldn't call it a hoax; rather, a case of somebody making an inaccurate statement and others repeating it. (After all, this is exactly how urban legends and other rumors and misinformation spread.) Also, I find it hard to believe that Čapek would write twice in Lidové noviny on the same topic, once in 1930 and again in 1933, and each time telling basically the same story but with significant differences.

    I also remember reading the story about Josef Čapek being the true inventor of the word (such as in Ludvík Souček's "Opravník oblíbených omylů"), and each time the original word was "labor", not "dělňas". I tried looking it up on the Internet, finding:

    • Copies of the Wikipedia article
    • The blog [4]
    • Other websites copying the blog's statements
    • An article in a Slovak newspaper "Slovo" making the same claim - and, by chance, written by the same person as the blog [5]
    • And the readers' responses to the blog, making the same counter-arguments as I did. [6]
  • I do have a valid reference for the original Čapek's word (quoting the author's newspaper article). Do you? (I am going to copy this discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Czech Republic; feel free to comment there.) - Mike Rosoft 16:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, your argument is only "valid", because I do not have the article and the sources where the opposite is written and I am not going to invest my time into this. Secondly, the above text does not contradict what the blog says (there could have been and surely were more alternatives and the author certainly did not take notes of this, because he did not know that this would become relevant one day). Thirdly, the argument that there could not be two articles on a topic is NOT valid and is laughable. Fourthly, the author of the blog as a person is reliable, btw, he can be nevertheless wrong of course. Fifthy, look carefully at the story - it is so detailed and logical that either this is a hoax or it is correct, it cannot be an "error". I hope you are able to understand point five at least. What I plan to do - like always - is to wait till I come across about the story somewhere again and then I will revert your edits. Juro 19:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion is silly:

  • Eduard Chmelár is doing his best to prove that robot is a Slovak word
  • nobody has heard about dělňas (in the connection with R.U.R) before Eduard Chmelár
  • Josef Čapek suggested robot to his brother
  • robot was introduced in R.U.R
  • the author of R.U.R is Karel Čapek (may be he didn't invented the word but he introduced the word).

is there anything else what needs to be added and/or clarified? --Cepek 17:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bilateral relations discussion

I would like to invite you all to participate in a discussion at this thread regarding bilateral relations between two countries. All articles related to foreign relations between countries are now under the scope of WikiProject Foreign relations, a newly created project. We hope that the discussion will result in a more clean and organized way of explaining such relationships. Thank you. Ed ¿Cómo estás? 18:33, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

68 Publishers

If anyone is familiar with the Canadian-based 68 Publishers, which published books by Czech and Slovak exiles after the Prague Spring, please help out the article. I have made a translation request, to translate the version from the Czech Wikipedia. Thanks! − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 10:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Music of the Czech Republic needs help

I came across Music of the Czech Republic by accident, and added it to your WikiProject. It looks like it deffinitley definitely needs help. --Ling.Nut 11:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I copyedited it. Milkbreath 19:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zaolzie up for GA review at WP:GA/R

Hey y'all, this is two problematic articles I've run across & notified your WikiProject, and I'm not even a member. ;-)

Zaolzie is up for GA review at WP:GA/R. --Ling.Nut 12:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I have a request for the Czech members. The article on Battle of Vaslui has been translated into Czech, but the translation is located on some weird site, which is using the Wiki engine. See here. I don't speak Czech, but I think it's written in Czech. I would appreciate if someone could post the article on the Czech Wikipedia and update some of the info from the English article and upload the necessary pictures. That article which was translated into Czech must be a few months old. Thanks. --Thus Spake Anittas 01:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! Ehm, it is morning only and I am narky again... :-( Projekt Navajo is osina v zadku české wikipedie. Sorry, exact translation of this spicy phrase is except of me knowledge of english. May be it is good.
Project Navajo creates automatic translations from en wikipedia with translator program. Outcomes (as this) are absolutely terrific (poetry from Vogons is more better and more understable from this), because czech language have other word-order and complicated declension from english and translator is not capable manage it. His oucomes are illegible, unintelligible and ridiculous. And many people confuse Navajo and cs.wikipedia - Navajo makes a great shame and negative PR for cs.wikipedia. :-(
So, this is not czech language, this is Navajo-czech-speak - outcome of translate english->czech l. makes from automatic translator. Total unusable.
I can try to reverse translate. The first sentence: Battle Vaslui (linked too as Battle Podul Înalt a Battle Racova) (I hope, without of is it similar grammatic nonsense in english as in czech language without u  :-) ) (january 10 1475) was overpower between Moldawian (Rumunian) prince Stephen The Great and Beylerbeyi Rumelia, , Hadân Suleiman Pasha. I hope, this reverse translation is comparable horrible as in navajo czech sentence, but I am afraid, this rev. trans. is better and more intelligible. :-( --Cinik 04:26, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I figured it would be too good to be true. :S Well, then maybe you guys can write a short stub about it or something. :p --Thus Spake Anittas 07:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dominik Hašek

Greetings Czech Republic Wikiprojecters. I just wanted to let you all know that Dominik Hašek has been put up for FA-consideration. Me and several others have done a lot of work on it and I think it has a good chance of passing. Fingers crossed. Sportskido8 08:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures of CZ

If you really need some pictures of Prague (or meybe some other place of Czech too), you can writte me and I try make the pictures. Or on czech wikipedie we have a project about making photo of Czech republic, so I (or you :) can writte there too. We are making now pictures of all czech articles about Prague, so the pictures will be on Commons in few months. --Chmee2 09:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Prague Spring for FA?

Dobrý den, my good Czech friends! I have an idea to share with you: last year, a group of editors (in which I participated) turned Hungarian Revolution of 1956 from an utter worthless mess into a real gem of a Featured Article, and got it on the Main Page on the 50th anniversary of the uprising. With the 40th anniversary of 1968 coming up next spring, I would love to repeat that success with Prague Spring. I know it's a long time until the actual anniversary, but the sooner we start, the better. (It got pretty hectic with 56, we started in August and the anniversary was in October, which led to a real mad dash to the finish--we barely made it.) Is anyone else interested? K. Lásztocska 23:16, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

....anyone? Anyone at all? K. Lásztocska 18:50, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll help. What exactly do you want to do?--Dominik92 06:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

orphan image Image:Velhartice Castle.jpg

I believe this ( Image:Velhartice Castle.jpg) is in the Czech Republic, right? Anyhow, it needs to be put into an article somewhere.. it's an orphan... Ling.Nut 05:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it is castle in Czech republic on the position here. If I look [there I thinkg that the picture is copyright protect... --Chmee2 11:19, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
..if it's copyrighted then it should be {{ifd}}... Ling.Nut 11:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK thanks I put a prod tag on it for deletion... Ling.Nut 11:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ivan Mladek

I'm shocked that noone has already started an article on him. I started one and got it farther then a stub category but unfortunately it's not very good, is terribly formatted (I suck at that) and doesn't cite any sources, if you wish to work on it please do so, Dekuju.--Dominik92 06:19, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sokol

Partly using the content of the English article, I wrote an article in French about the Sokol movement and intend to make it a FA. For those of you who can speak French, your help is welcome: Reading the article and checking there is no major mistake. Many thanks --Bombastus 15:05, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Order of T. G. Masaryk

I have expanded the article to include its recipients in 1991 and 1992 before the dissolution of Czechoslovakia, and done some other fixes (the article was a rough translation from Czech Wikipedia). - Mike Rosoft 10:51, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

great :) ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 10:54, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Soviet occupation of Czechoslovaka

Soviet occupation of Czechoslovakia article has been recently created and needs expanding.--Molobo 08:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Karel Zich

I created an article mainly based on the info from cs wiki, please someone check the english. thx. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 23:00, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RFC

There is a Request for Comment going on whether to include the Beneš decrees in the article about Slovakia or not. Please add your comments if interested at Talk:Slovakia. Squash Racket 15:32, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD on Denial of Soviet occupation

This AfD may be of interest to members of this project. Comments are welcome. K. Lásztocska 11:49, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstars - delete !

They want to delete our barnstars, add your opinion here please [8]. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 08:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

German natives of...

At WP:GSWN, I raised the issue of Category:German natives of Bohemia and Category:German natives of Moravia. Personally, I think it would be better to rename the former to Category:German Bohemians or Category:Bohemian Germans, both of which have been used in English literature. Moravia presents a more confusing picture, as "German Moravians" or "Moravian Germans" (especially the former), often refer in English to members of the Moravian Church. Another question is how the Bohemian and Moravian categories should be in relation to Category:Sudeten Germans. Is a merger needed? Thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated. Olessi 18:34, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • As to the terminology, "Sudeten Germans" sounds like the right order. I'm a native speaker of American English, and the USA has no common term of this exact type. We have "Italian-American" (with and without the hyphen), for example, but this means "American of Italian birth or extraction", not "Italian living on American soil". Therefore "American Italian", if we had such a term, would mean the latter. I'm just trying to convince you that I'm right with some kind of evidence, but to put it plainly, "Bohemian Germans" is normal American English for the thing.
  • "German natives of Bohemia" doesn't sound right. The reader's mind flip-flops between "German natives of Bohemia" and "German natives of Bohemia", for one thing. "In Bohemia" doesn't work, either. "Ethnic Germans of Bohemia" would convey the correct meaning, but would put too fine a point on it, in my opinion.
  • Americans are used to ambiguity, I think. If "Moravian Germans" conjures the Church at first glance, too bad. The reader will adjust quickly, and no harm done. Anyway, if the term were meant to refer to the religion, it would be "German Moravians". We wouldn't say "Catholic French", for instance, but rather "French Catholics".
  • I think that the Sudetenland has a special place in history, enough to merit a category of its own. --Milkbreath 19:24, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If "Italian Americans" are "Americans of Italian origin", than I think that "American Italians" are "Italians of American origin". Similarly, "Bohemian Germans" would suggest the meaning of "Germans of Bohemian origin", and not "Germans living on Bohemian soil". Therefore I would prefer "Ethnic Germans of Bohemia". Jan.Kamenicek 21:11, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How should we categorize "Sudeten Germans"? Should we include only Germans from the Sudeten Mountains or from the more general Sudetengau? Olessi 18:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would include Germans from Sudetengau because this way is, I think, more complex. As for the second issue, I would prefer Bohemian Germans and Moravian Germans - with short info in this category, something like "This category includes Ethnic Germans from Moravia.". - Darwinek 21:32, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hevstäf

Does this village exist? Thank you.--Victor falk 21:09, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Per my long spent time searching for anything I must conclude I bet my own pants it doesn't exist and is a hoax. - Darwinek 21:28, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I second. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 21:33, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that Victor falk was looking for verification from someone from WP Czech Republic who is NOT already involved in the dispute/discussion and who has NOT already weighed in their opinions on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hevstäf. Your responses here are just redundant and show no new information from either of you. Zebraic 21:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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