User talk:Soprani
Welcome to my talk, please add your message below and remember to be civil at all times. AS RomaI put the section "Colours and badge" back on AS Roma ... ciao --Gaúcho 11:31, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Soprani... are you Italian? Well, first of all, I have never seen written "Rome, Lazio", all the world knows what is Rome and there is no reason in specifying the region, this is not Rome, Maine, this is just Rome. Then, why have you deleted the numbers of the "runners-up" titles? I think that they are useful... and finally, why the international records? They should stay there... Waiting your answer... bye --Gaúcho 19:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
my user pageHi and thanks. I didn't even notice that the page had been vandalised a few days ago — it was again today and I saw your revert. Best wishes, Jack Merridew 07:30, 22 September 2007 (UTC) Buon giorno!Buon giorno, my new friend Soprani! :) Please, don't mention it, it's my greatest pleasure to see you liked the design, and you so perfectly adapted it yourself, and witha beautiful color scheme to boot. This is a perfect excuse to wish you a very happy week, and to invite you to drop by my talk page any time you need a little help, or if you just feel like talking. Enjoy! :) Love, Phaedriel - 09:31, 24 September 2007 (UTC) Gibraltar national football teamNice work. -- Chris B • talk 17:26, 28 September 2007 (UTC) A.S. RomaYes I'll review it when I have some time tomorrow thanks NapHit 18:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC) Coppa delle Coppe
The Armando Picchi Supertrophy was a official competition by FIGC (8 team partecipated in two groups, semifinal and final in Rome). Font: the locandine manifestation are FIGC Logo. Toshiro70 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.220.71.152 (talk) 12:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC) PD-ItalyJust to let you know PD-Italy is not valid under US law, so the template you used on Image:HelgeBronee.jpg is actually invalid. You are requested to write a valid fair use rationale for all of the pictures you uploaded under this license, otherwise I might be forced to delete it in compliance with WP:NONFREE. Thanks. --Angelo 19:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
BBC World ServiceHave you read the article on the BBC World Service --Philip Baird Shearer 00:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC) National ActionIt is true that Malta Today is a leftist newspaper, but it's not the only newspaper to describe the party as "far-right", as evident by the citations. So mentioning "Malta Today" in the article can be misleading, making it seem that it's the only newspaper to have described them as such. By the way it's best we keep the discussion on the talk page of the article so other people can see what's going on too. Marcus1234 05:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC) Userpage designHey, love the userpage design. Mind if I use it for my own? I'd be sure to give credit to yourself and the original designer! Thanks. Sicilianmandolin 08:26, 14 October 2007 (UTC) Reverting editsIf you revert another user's edits, as you have done at Libero and Four-wheel drive in Formula One it is advisable to always give an edit summary to explain why you are doing this. If not, there is a chance your edits may be seen as vandalism. Thanks --Pak21 18:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
LiberoI honestly don't understand what the issue you're making here is. You're replacing it with a piped link when that's not necessary. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. As for "football" vs "soccer", the libero page will be read by a worldwide audience, so what harm is there in using a form of words which will be recognised by everybody? --Pak21 18:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
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-- lucasbfr talk 13:40, 22 October 2007 (UTC) BlockedYou are clearly the abusive vandal and sockpuppeteer, Daddy Kindsoul (talk · contribs), and have been blocked indefinitely. You know better. --Yamla 15:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
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Soprani (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: What is this?? I am not a sockpuppet of anybody, show some proofs of you claim. where is any evidence of this lie? - Soprani 15:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC) Decline reason: reason — The editing patterns exhibited by both you and Daddy Kindsoul, combined with your shared areas of editing, is more than enough evidence. Creating another account to evade this block simply compounds the problem. -- Merope 15:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
remain calmRemain calm. I'll watch this page. Tell me what has happened in a clear and unbiased way. If you did something that wasn't permitted or wasn't in the best judgement, being upfront is better. I can always be contacted by e-mail if you don't spam me. My specialty is understanding and reducing anger. Anger is ok. Uncontrolled anger isn't. Uetz 18:47, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
The clown claims that i was another user, based only on the fact that i go to italian football articles (like many others on Wikipedia). infact he is using that shallow basis in his claims against me on this[1] and calling it "evidence" in an attempt to twist the arbitrator... what he neglects to mention in his "evidence" is that i have never been on the article which that other user was banned for editing (about a USA band), showing that i do not edit as that user. You can check this in the article history.[2] Yamla has a history of "block first, think later" tactics on Wikipedia, so here you see him banning me without even doing a check user first. Did you know that this same clown once banned the entire country of Qatar from editing Wikipedia?[3][4] that is over 840,000 people who he has a history of banning wrongly, infamous. Yet somehow, the powers of be let this..... person, retain sysop controls, which he is using wrongly in a reckless way to this day? Shocking. - Soprani 03:36, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Checkuser came back as very likely. This user is using an ISP which regularly hands out new IP addresses and thus it was all but impossible to be certain. We know this because this vandal has been able to continue setting up more abusive sockpuppet accounts to continue violating the ban. Anyway, this puts the matter to rest. --Yamla 22:18, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
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Soprani (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: As you can see above, a check user was taken and the results came back as not proven and not confirmed, meaning that as have said, I am not the sockpuppet of anybody, the lack of proof of a link is evidence in that it could not be confirmed. As we can see from my contributions all my writings and documentations have only been valuable contribution, no sights of vandalism just lots of "good work" (as agreed on by the community)[16][17] I request that I be unblocked to continue that in peace, the block is invalid and lacking in basis. I refuse to be push away from my interest here just because of one guy who was unable to prove any false claims made against me. If not unblocked, like the last few days I will continue to do this documents on lots of different accounts, so it is pointless and counter-productive to the value of the articles here (especially Italian football) if Im not allowed to go about my contributions under this account in peace. - Soprani 23:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC) Decline reason: As explained by Yamla above, and Mr.Z-man below. - auburnpilot talk 00:19, 27 October 2007 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
So you saying, I was not confirmed as that user, I was not proven as that user Daddy Kindsoul? Thats the facts. If I was him, I would have been confirmed or proven; yet this evidence does not exist because I'm not. Over the last few days I created sock puppets, this is true... they were put on to reinstate articles, templates, free images and other stuff which the community viewed as valuable,[14][15] that you went on an abusive campaign to erase from Wikipedia.[16] We are talking hundreds of articles, images, templates built up over months, and lots of valuable content edits, which were just in a flick of a switch, purged by you, even though you had no basis and enitrely everybody involved in projects relating to them viewed your deletions as trollish.[17][18] In addition to your lack of consensus to remove all of those hundreds of things, you also were removing stuff by a writer who you had not (and still are unable to) proven by fact to be somebody else. I think I was right to make those ones, to try and stop what you were doing to our football articles, its called damage control and benifited the articles (see;Wikipedia:Ignore all rules). But what does this have to do with me going on, as I do for the months I've come here contributing valuable information with this account to Italian football? There is no evidence in my contributions to show any vandalism or such acts (ask other people on the Football Project). All I am saying is, regardless of if you unjustly keep me blocked (without any proof) or if you just let me go on in peace, I'm here to stay... Im not been pushed away because of you. What is good for the project is if I'm allowed to go on building documents with the other users in that field, as I have before in peace.. where is the harm in all of this? My desires for the project are not negative. - Soprani 23:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't know about ISPs, IPs, all of this garbage. All i know is that i am not that person, so i know my IP is not his one. It is not impossible to prove one way or another, you can either prove something or you can't: simple. In this case, we see that it was unable to confirm so when you put a stupid tag on my page thats says "Soprani is a sockpuppet of Diddy Kindsoul" then you are doing so without infalible proof, if "Soprani" was a document in Wikipedia, a claim like that would get removed, because its unproven. So as it stands this is a block, when there is no confirmation of your accusation. As for Mr. Z-man's comment on "uncivil comments" on this page, all i said is true: this is why i put links of them to prove so, follow them up and they will attest. If you had been f****ed with like i have here this week for no reason at all, when out of my 3,000 or so contributions non of which are vandalism all of them are geniune edits to improve this thing (that is even the consensus of the people who work with me, see the talk of Wikipedia:WikiProject Football, and all this was purged and you were blocked with no proof, then you would be extremely agitated too. How do you expect me to reply, when ive been mistreated like THIS! ridiculous! As i said anyway, when certain wreckless people are not trying to f**k with me. I enjoy contributing and building documents here to make Wikipedia the best source for football on the net. Regardless of if i'm unblocked (as i rightly should be) or not, i will not go so what is your point? You will rather trollishly continue to remove contributions that are perfectly reasonable, valuable, while i will re-add with sockpuppets that are actually me??? (note this is not considered vandalism by Wikipedia:Vandalism) you would prefer a continuation of the last few days of inantey (a complete waste of effort and time by you) rather than just leaving me alone, after your test was unproven and let me go on with my edits like the months before you blocked me for no good reason? Seems like a strange choice to me, but if you want battle lines, then that is your perogative: certainly of your making not mine. - Soprani 00:33, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
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Soprani (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: As you can see above, a check user was taken and the results came back as not proven and not confirmed, meaning that as have said, I am not the sockpuppet of anybody, the lack of proof of a link is evidence in that it could not be confirmed. As we can see from my contributions all my writings and documentations have only been valuable contribution, no sights of vandalism just lots of "good work" (as agreed on by the community)[16][17] I request that I be unblocked to continue that in peace, the block is invalid and lacking in basis. I refuse to be push away from my interest here just because of one guy who was unable to prove any false claims made against me. If not unblocked, like the last few days I will continue to do this documents on lots of different accounts, so it is pointless and counter-productive to the value of the articles here (especially Italian football) if Im not allowed to go about my contributions under this account in peace. - Soprani 23:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC) Decline reason: The checkuser result was "very likely" (would be impossible to definitely confirm) - this plus the other disruption and the disturbingly uncivil comments above suggest that unblocking would not result in a positive gain for Wikipedia.— Mr.Z-man 23:41, 26 October 2007 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
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Soprani (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log)) Request reason: As you can see above, a check user was taken and the results came back as not proven and not confirmed, meaning that as have said, I am not the sockpuppet of anybody, the lack of proof of a link is evidence in that it could not be confirmed. As we can see from my contributions all my writings and documentations have only been valuable contribution, no sights of vandalism just lots of "good work" (as agreed on by the community)[16][17] I request that I be unblocked to continue that in peace, the block is invalid and lacking in basis. I refuse to be push away from my interest here just because of one guy who was unable to prove any false claims made against me. If not unblocked, like the last few days I will continue to do this documents on lots of different accounts, so it is pointless and counter-productive to the value of the articles here (especially Italian football) if Im not allowed to go about my contributions under this account in peace. - Soprani 23:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC) Decline reason: Threats guarantee unblock requests will be declined. — jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 02:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC) If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked. My thoughtsI've been using Wikipedia for a few years now, as diplomatically as possible, so I thought my opinion on the matter might be of some value. Although I'm not an administrator, browsing Soprani's edit history, I can't say I've found a single instance indicative of destructive, uncivil behavior. In fact, he was quite cordial in my limited conduct with him. I've been keeping my eye on this dispute as it's developed, and my personal opinion is that the greatest piece of evidence in support of blocking Soprani for any reason, regardless of whether he is proven to be a sockpuppet or not, would be a history of ongoing disruptive behavior within THIS account. Until that kind of evidence be brought to the table, I think current arguments in favor of his banning are rather baseless. Sicilianmandolin 06:39, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Stop itYou just don't get it do you? You were blocked for sockpuppetry, so you think the best way to get unblocked is to harass me on my talk page with obvious sockpuppets? Assume good faith stops when there is evidence to the contrary, and there is loads here. You requested unblock once here. I declined it and you removed it, replacing it with the same request message as before (I only put back the declined request). This was declined by AuburnPilot. You then replaced that with the same request again. AuburnPilot put back the request that he declined. Jpgorden declined the third request (fourth if you count the one by Merope a few days ago). We did not keep adding unblock requests, you did; we just re-added the declined ones that you removed. And then in your sockpuppet harassing on my talk page, you have the nerve to say I didn't AGF and then then call me and other admins hypocrites who don't follow policy (the irony is amazing). I made no mistake and your harassment on my talk page only confirms my thoughts. I've unprotected this page to allow a response Mr.Z-man 19:17, 27 October 2007 (UTC) Well i think... (solution)I think this have been established, over the last week that i did not go anywhere, irregardless of this ban. As much "fun" (*sarcasm*) as this little game is where, Yamla unconstructively removes a perfectly good edit and i, with a sockpuppet put it back under the grounds of WP:BAN section on "Maximizing the quality of the encyclopedia."... i would actually like to return with this account now and get back to the actual building and working on stuff. it cannot be denied, that by reading this very talkpage that i have stated a desire to return to my work which is valuable and contructive to the encyclopedia. Now, as we can see, my editing to articles and content show no signs of anything wrong (such as vandalism) and the community agrees so on this (some even kindly vouch for this on this very page). However, if there is some consern due to ancient history... discrepancies, i would be willing to be put into this thing of Wikipedia:Mentorship where a suitable person (prefarably one from Wikipedia:WikiProject Football as this is the topic area which i edit in and they will be familiar with subjects at hand) mentors over my edits to make sure there is nothing wrong. i see this is a perfectly reasonable solution and would like to hear some thoughts. - Soprani 10:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
What are your comments to do with article content or any of this on Mentorship, may I ask? Leaving warnings for suspect edits is a standard practice on Wikipedia, nothing "fake". On the topic of Libero (the one at hand there) an admin eventually intervened and it indeed turned out that you were in the wrong. Perhaps I should have gone to the admin in the first place to sort it, but I figured that you may have been a user unfamiliar with the system and instead put a warning template to guide your edit. the other links you provided was not made under this account from the time that i was left alone editing, they were made after the ban, to report Yamla with sockpuppet through various Projects, so moot point in regards to anything said in this section. Find me one sign, just one of vandalism or work which is unconstructive on articles in my contributions. if you're so cock-sure lets see shall we. there are non, but there are ones like A.S. Roma and many more which i helped to build to good standard. - Soprani 10:41, 3 November 2007 (UTC) |