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(removed comments by sockpuppet of banned editor)

Another New Sockpuppet Possibility

User: Packers1992 has popped up, with no edits except to Brett Favre, and made the exact same edits that a banned user has made. He denies it, but has exactly the same style and difficulty signing his name that the banned user did. Any thoughts? I'll defer to your judgement. Snowfire51 07:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am quite skeptical of the legitimacy of this new user. I suppose we should WP:AGF for the time being, however, and see what happens. –King Bee ^{(τ • γ)} 15:21, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(removed comments by sockpuppet of banned editor)

3rd quaterback to have beaten 31 teams

I'm questioning the validity of the statement "he became only the 3rd quarterback in NFL history to have won a game against every single team in the NFL." There is no citation for this claim. It's my understanding that he's the 3rd quarterback to have beaten 31 teams, not the 3rd to have beaten every team in the NFL. This assertion can be misleading for two reasons; one, I'm pretty sure other quarterbacks have beaten all their opponents before the NFL expanded to 32 teams and two, Favre hasn't beaten every team in the NFL as he has never beaten the packers. Any thoughts on whether this should be removed or clarified? Zervas 08:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The statement was made by Joe Buck during the broadcast of the game on November 4, 2007, where the Packers beat the Chiefs. Buck and Troy Aikman mentioned it several times, so that's where all of this is probably coming from. I noticed it's mentioned twice in the article, but only properly referenced once so I added it to both. I guess to be accurate, it should say he's the third quarterback to have beaten all 31 other current NFL teams. With everything else Favre has done and as long as he's played, this individual factoid isn't really the top of his hitlist to me, what do you guys think? Snowfire51 08:32, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely not. With the proper source, maybe it could be mentioned somewhere, but it's completely inconsequential in my opinion. –King Bee ^{(τ • γ)} 13:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its probably notable if it was any other QB other than Favre, Manning, or Brady. I think this article is getting very listy and way too statistical, I wish there was some way to place his records and stats in some sort of a table. It doesn't really look like an article right now. Just my two cents.
Gonzo fan2007 ^{talk ♦ contribs} 21:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've been following the article and discussion here on the talk page. I think I might have a suggestion to offer... How about spinning off the records into a separate article, a List of Brett Favre records or somesuch, and just include the biggest/greatest/best in the main article? Imzadi1979 21:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Our banned editor's latest edit summary, 'they are Brett Favre stats so they belong on the page' gets me thinking; I'm not convinced that's true at all, and Brett Favre statistics wouldn't be inherently notable by WP:NOTABLE standards, would it (looking at WP:NOT#INFO, statistics)? Wikipedia is not meant to be a regurgitation of statistics, I believe, but here's another suggestion; what if we cut out of the article records that are merely copies of lists of records? In other words, the career touchdowns record is likely to make the cut of 'notable', because you could find discussion of the record itself in a newspaper, but 'consecutive 20 touchdown seasons' is less likely, and at best I've only seen it on pages with large lists of 'career achievements'. Thoughts? Skybunny 03:21, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2 comments by banned user

I think only the top stats for Favre should be shown on his page. His numbers are so great that they threaten to overwhelm the entire article, and wikipedia is not just for stats and lists. I'd suppor cutting it down to the top 6-8 stats, whatever seems right, and just dropping the others. His legacy won't be his stats. Snowfire51 05:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by banned user

Favre's Stats, And The Shortening Thereof

I like what Skybunny has done with the stats, reducing them to their top achievements for the sake of brevity. With a career like Favre's, it would be easy to overwhelm his career and accomplishments with all of his statistics. WHat do you guys think? Snowfire51 05:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment by banned user

Ditto the above.
Gonzo fan2007 ^{talk ♦ contribs} 06:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You support removing all those Favre stats Gonzo, your pathtic, your not a cheesehead, well maybe you are, but not in the Packers sense. You three have ruined this page and are lying dorks. Leave me alone, I'm not a sock and I'm trying to edit other pages. Flashback1990 06:57, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]