Talk:Cristiano Ronaldo

The van Nistelrooy Fallout

In the section about he and v.Nistelrooy falling out, the link which is supposed to cite this totally disagrees with it saying there was never a falling out. http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/internationals/article1095808.ece

Honours

I am confident he doesn't hold either of the honours attributed to him in the final paragraph (uncited, obviously), please could someone remove. Ironick 13:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Diver

He is a blatant diver. How come there isn't a mention of that.59.178.122.69 13:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

For the same reason it isn't on pretty much every other non-English footballer's page. Except Drogba who even admitted it the twat 77.101.41.107 23:15, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

latest detail

ALI ADIL (SUDAN)report Ronaldo's dominant foot is his right foot, but still plays amazing with his left foot. Ronaldo actually lives in a small Cheshire village close to Jodrell Bank and is driving a show r u he was a stupid footballler hhahahhah ilver Audi Q7 at the moment. KerminchamCat 20:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)KerminchamCat

That's great, but cars and houses are trivial, and the "personal life" section is basically a trivia section by another name. I don't have a problem with deleting the "personal life" section altogether. Objections? Ytny (talk) 20:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Ronaldo needs more in a trivia section. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.32.188.187 (talk) 01:24:54, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

he doesnt drive a Audi Q7. he drives a grey bentley, with a red soft top, its on 07 plate. most of the utd squad drive Audi's but he is one of the few who dont. also he drive a black 4X4 porsche. oh. and hes also moving house soon. thought i would tell you all. i can tell you more. but you will have to ask. =] Kirsty x KrazyKrusty 12:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Career stats table

The table that someone keeps reverting to is too big. I put the current one in because it actually fits on the screen. Kingjeff 16:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

World cup incident

Both "incidents" (nistelroy and rooney) are pointless media speculations, in both cases no one truly "involved" confirmed any kind of "incident"

The "world cup incident" section seems to be way taking up way more space than it should. More importantly, it mentions that there was speculation that Ronaldo affected the sending-off, while there is no description of the event itself, Rooney's stamping and pushing of Ronaldo (was that Ronaldo's fault really?) It just focuses on how the English media used him a scapegoat without taking an objective view of the event itself. The section seems pretty biased and way too big. Xioyux 02:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

That section is a disgrace. The man is somehow responsible for Wayne Rooney being a loose cannon? Look at this article in other languages and you will find little if any mention of this "incident". Only the most bitter England fans in denial and muck-raking journalists would come to this absurd conclusion. This section doesn't even describe the event - it simply suggests Christiano was at fault. Look at the YouTube video one more time and I defy you to put the blame on anyone other than Rooney. Ronaldo isn't even within 12 feet of Rooney when the offense is committed. Please grow up folks. - Plasticbadge 23:59, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Definitely. This is Rooney's incident not Ronaldo's. Deman7001 02:16, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

This section should be no longer than a couple of sentences. This incident is now long forgoten and as mentioned above had nothing to do with Ronaldo, although the press backlash afterwards might be worth mentioning if only to point out that Ronaldo was made a scapegoat for Rooney's sending off. If I don't hear any objections about this over the next few days I'll shorten the section myself. (Dinosv 13:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC))

Height

He's 1,85m tall. it's relativelly unimportant how it converts into imperial measures, as the empire is long gone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.84.210 (talk) 16:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not 100% on this one but I believe he is 6'2" and not 6'0" like stated on his page here. I've heard many football analysts refer to him as being a "big" guy at 6 feet 2 inches. It is also evident when you look at photos of him. On the field, he appears to be taller than most of the players. The terminator1000 00:19, 14 April 2007 (UTC)the_terminator1000

There is a template that is used here that calculates from metres to feet and inches. If you can find an article or profile that states your claim then you can use it to redo the height. Kingjeff 00:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I change the height to 184cm based on the profile on this page premierleague.com profile. I remove the reference from Official Manchester United website since it doesn't list his height there. Martin tamb 09:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

He is 6 foot 1 inch. lol. 185cm. just thought id let you know. Kirsty x —Preceding unsigned comment added by KrazyKrusty (talk • contribs) 10:37, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

If you were wondering by the way, its because i know he definetly isnt 6foot because i was stood next to him the other week, and my mate is 6 foot, and he was with me, and ronaldo was an inch taller. lol. just to let you know. =] Kirsty x —Preceding unsigned comment added by KrazyKrusty (talk • contribs) 08:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Too much emphasis on 06/07 season.

I think there's too much emphasis on this current season. He has been at Manchester United for over four years and yet under "Manchester United" over half of the content describes his form this season. It's not even the end of the season yet and it's already cluttered. In a few years time this article will be a novel. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.0.226.75 (talk) 02:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

Just something

It's quite clear that Ronaldo is one of the,uglyest people on earth if not the outright best, player in the world. There's no doubt at all. So why is this not at all mentioned? I know it's minor but he's certainly deserving of it...

If you have a citation that states that, in can be added, else it's POV. Darkson - BANG! 23:42, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Several players (Gerrard, Joe Cole, Terry, Rooney), and Ferguson and Queiroz have hailed him as the best in the world. If he/she cares enough, the citations are certainly there. Kronix1986 04:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Additional Awards not mentioned:

Ronaldo was awarded Portugal's Sport Personality of the Year for 2006 (preceded ny Nuno Gomes) source: http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/31122006/3/portuguese-paper-names-ronaldo-sportsman-year.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.163.208.51 (talk • contribs)

He was also awarded the PFA Fans' Player of the Year (thus making a clean sweep of all 3 PFA awards - he was preceded by Rooney on this award) source: http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=287915

PFA Fans' award added. Darkson - BANG! 23:42, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Awarded FWA's PLayer of the year this season. He was preceded by Theiry Henry link: http://uk.reuters.com/article/footballNews/idUKL0303432320070504 Another note: With Ronaldo winning both PFA Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year awards and it's the first time ever a player collected the Writers' award, too. Andy Gray was beaten to it by Emlyn Hughes in 1977 - the year when United denied Liverpool the Treble. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.163.208.51 (talk • contribs)

Other Additional Awards not mentioned:

• Barclays FA Premier League Player of the Year.

 (Preceded by Thiery Henry source: http://www.premierleague.com/fapl.rac?command=setSelectedId&nextPage=enNewsLatest&id=926315&type=com.fapl.website.news.NewsItem&categoryCode=NewsSpecialFeatures&breadcrumb=sfsub_breadcrumb)

• Member of PFA Team of the Year 2007
• Manchester United Players Player of the Year Award 2006/2007
• Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year 2006/2007
• PFA Fans' Player of the Month (October, February)
• Portuguese Sports Personality of the Year [2007]

link: http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=427529

I added them all. Kronix1986 04:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Ronaldo was also awarded 'Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year 2003/2004' which is missing from the list.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.123.200.231 (talk • contribs) 12:53, May 23, 2007 (UTC)

His ManUtd profile here mentions his being named Sir Matt Busby Player of the Year in 2003/2004: http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={FE60904B-C2A8-4E60-9B05-700DBBC29BBC}&section=playerProfile&teamid=458&bioid=91960 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.32.104 (talk) 16:52, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

He also Won the EPL Asia Fan's Player of the Season 2006/2007 203.124.2.42 09:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

World Cup incident caption

The information is completely wrong: Rooney kicked Ricardo Carvahlo. It should say something like "sparking speculation that Ronaldo had tried to influence the referee in sending Rooney off." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.219.254 (talk • contribs)

wrong

there is a wrong with n. of goals i cant fix it because i dont knoe how many goals --62.150.156.55 05:59, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

The infobox shows the number of league goals only per discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football, and at least according to this link, 35 goals in 128 games is correct as of May 10.--Ytny (talk) 06:15, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Personal life

Another thing which might be said here is that Cristiano is now dating a fat girl. I won't say her name, i will only say this relationship will not be shown in the media like other Cristiano relations.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Portuguesa (talk • contribs) 16:43, May 22, 2007 (UTC)

Well, that's not really going to help, what with the Wikipedia policy of verifiability. --Ytny (talk) 21:00, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Cristiano Ronaldo is dating gemma atkinson, i saw him with her the other week, they were driving past a new build house, which he is currently interested in, in manchester, it was clear that it was gemma in the passenger seat, and it was him who was driving, just thought i would let you all know. you may want to change it, but you dont have to. but the information is there if you want it. =] get back to me if you want more information. Kirsty x —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.74.26 (talk) 10:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Just thought i would let you all know, that gemma and Ronaldo have broken up =] lol. Kirsty x —Preceding unsigned comment added by KrazyKrusty (talk • contribs) 08:27, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Quote:

'When he was younger he was known to perform oral sex on small boys for bus fare, after which he then winked at them, he still hasn't got rid of the winking tweak to this day.'

Um...what is the source for this interesting piece of information? This sounds more like a tasteless personal attack. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.53.110.141 (talk) 21:17, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

simple question, WHERES THIS AWFUL PIECE OF 'information' COME FROM? KrazyKrusty 12:20, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Typo in the Special Achievements Section

In the "Special Achievements" section, the second bullet states "...becoming the first player to will all three..." where it should obviously be "...becoming the first player to win all three..." .

--3rdKyu 16:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Done Darkson - BANG! 16:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Lamps still holds the record

It says he became the first player to score 17 goals in an EPL season as a "mid fielder" but the wanker is a wanger (winger) not a "midfielder"

Wingers are midfielders. Neil ╦ 00:29, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Playing Style Section

Is there anyway we can add a playing style section to Cristiano's official wikipedia. We can talk about how Ronaldo is a new breed of Winger. Wingers were usually short players with good technical abilities that would usually just cross the ball in to box for forwards to head in. Cristiano has evolved into a new breed of winger. Tall and muscualr and built like a striker, who makes runs into the box. We can also about his flamboyent style of play with array of tricks (stepovers and other dribbling). I think a section like this would be really helpful on people just getting into football. It can also explain why he's adore by many fans and hated just as much by other fans.

I've added this section a few days ago. Feel free to update/improve on it. Lpy4606 04:02, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Please, add www.cristianor7.com in the external links

Thanks very much

Influence on signing Nani

i have read in several Portuguese literatures, as well as one from spain, that ronaldo had SAf's ear full for nearly two years about signing Carlos Almeida (nani) who not only is his childhood and sporting academy compatriot, but the scottie to his jordan if you will.

i believe that there should be at least a side note on the part their friendship has played in bringing the two wingers together in Manchester, if not the literature which is available to anyone regarding google with the key terms i have used, but also, by the symbolic allowance of ronaldo to nani, in his wearing of his shirt in ronaldo's(short) injury absence. my favourte person is called ali adil

by the way, these two are such good friends, having seen them out and about together, they get on so well, i think its wonderful that ronaldo is accomadating Nani at his house, until nani has a place of his own. they also leave training together, and mostly arrive together aswell. just thought id let you all know, =] i have pics of them together in the car, if you want them =] lol. Kirsty x KrazyKrusty 12:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Kirsty,kirsty,kirsty omfg i wanna talk to you! do u have msn or somehting?please reply! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.101.77.15 (talk) 16:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey, ive just sent a private message to you. =] i do have msn, =] but if you have Myspace, add me on that, www.myspace.com/KrazyKrusty =] thanks. Kirsty x —Preceding unsigned comment added by KrazyKrusty (talk • contribs) 08:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Madeira Flag

Since Madeira is a Portuguese Autonomous Region , seperate flag is required when birth place is mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BolinhasFofas (talk • contribs) 17:53, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

KIRSTI! i wanna talk with u lol do u have msn or sumthin? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.101.77.15 (talk) 16:25, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree with the influence of style for each famous footballer!

Explaining Cristiano's playing style, as well as other famous footballers, will certainly give this whole article meaning. Why have a whole bio of someone with just naming their acheivements and origin?! I concur that having a 'style' section would certainly give newbies a reason to read a bio, this should definitely be an addition to football players, as well as some other sports. It just makes sense. Great job by-the-way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.91.37.33 (talk) 19:00, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Non-hereditary Orders and Titles of Cristiano Ronaldo

Orders and decorations received by Cristiano Ronaldo: Officer of the Order of Infante D. Henrique (Portugal) --> Given to all football players of the Portuguese football team by former President Sampaio. Medal of Merit, Order of the Immaculate Conception of Vila Viçosa (House of Braganza).--> Given to all football players of the Portuguese football team by Duarte Pio Duke of Braganza.

Signing for Manchester United

In the autobiography of Phil Thompson, former assistant manager of Liverpool, it states that when Gerard Houllier was the manager, Liverpool were on the verge of signing Cristiano Ronaldo for an fee of around £4m. The fee had been agreed with Sporting Lisbon and then Manchester United made a bid of just over three times that. It was considered to be slightly suspicious. I don't know if this would count as a valid source for the article, but I can certainly provide valid quotes if required. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.196.89.118 (talk) 15:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

mkas —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.39.175.139 (talk) 22:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

When Manchester United went to Portugal, to play Sporting club de portugal, they had already agreed to Buy Cristiano Ronaldo, as he has revealed in his recent book, 'moments', and im not saying that liverpool werent going to bid on Ronaldo, but im jsut saying that when united played sporting, they had already bought Ronaldo. =] Kirsty x —Preceding unsigned comment added by KrazyKrusty (talk • contribs) 08:34, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Here is a quote from Thommo's autobiography related to this section:

"I was sitting in a lounge at Anfield having some lunch and looking at the big TV screen. Up came the news United had signed Ronaldo from Lisbon for £12.2m. Gerard and myself nearly choked on our food.

"Gerard said: 'Contact Tony Henry,' and I went straight out and rang him. I said: 'what happened? More importantly, what happened with the price?' He said: 'After you had been with me, I got a phone call the following week and was told to drop everything on the deal. Hand on heart, I really don't know what happened.'

"I went back and told Gerard the story. What happened, God only knows. For the fee to jump from £4m to £12m, especially as they seemed so desperate, was surprising to say the least." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.34.160.145 (talk) 15:04, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

In Cristiano Ronaldo's Recently released book 'Moments' he mentions the point in which he signs for Manchester United, he States that before the match he knew his destiny was at Manchester United, and that they had bought him, Now where is there a Mention of Liverpool. i mean i have heard that Liverpool were going to sign him, but they thought of him as too young, personally i dont care anymore, he signed for the better club, and he seems as thought he's going to stay. =] lol. thats whats important. and he seems to get on with the lads at united, i mean ive seen them together, and they all get on great. =] so we know he signed for united, and thats whats important, the rest, is history. =] xxxKrazyKrusty 23:35, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

If things that happened in the past weren't important then why would Wikipedia exist? Anyway, the point here is that his transfer was highly dubious in the way that it was conducted between Manchester United and Sporting Lisbon. The player wouldn't have actually been involved in that process at all until the fee had been agreed and United had been given permission to talk to him, otherwise it's what's called "tapping up". If Ronaldo had mentioned the Liverpool involvement in his book, he'd be implicating his club in possible illegal transfer dealings, in much the same way as Jaap Stam did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.34.160.145 (talk) 17:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

he didnt mention liverpool, he just said that when he was in the sporting lisbon Vs Manchester United match in August 2003 he knew that united had signed him, he knew the evening before, but he never thought that he would be going to manchester so soon, he thought he would be at sporting for another year. thats all. =] KrazyKrusty (talk) 08:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Clean up the Section under Manchester United?

In my opinion, there is too much emphasis on each season at United. I'm looking to clean-up that section, but would like some feedback from everyone on this matter. Do you think we should leave it as it is or should we really clean it up?Eg the paragraph on the diving incidents. Can we just remove that and state that Ronaldo has been involved in diving controversies since his first season in England? And the paragraph on the current season. Do we really need to mention those specific match details? I mean the article will be severely overloaded if we are going to include details of every match he scored in.Lpy4606 12:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

you shouldnt clean it up too much. after all his club is united, its who he plays for every week. xx KrazyKrusty 14:25, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Personal life

I haven't got time, but someone please rewrite this section, it's completely ridiculous and looks as if a 10 year old wrote it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.65.126 (talk • contribs)

What are you trying to say... well I know I didn't write it but why don't you clean it up...and if you are not aware I'm 12 years old and I have made,fixed and watch more than 110+ articles...Lil'Khan (talk) 01:31, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality

It occurred to me that this article is not really 'neutral'. Calling someone gifted is one thing, but to say he's got 'superb technical ability' is a little exaggurated. And openly discussing the correctness of the red card is absolutely useless. The whole style of the article bends in the 'too positive' direction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.168.107.17 (talk) 12:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

International

I think it would be good if we could re-write that section..it's too..cluttered in a way..one-liners throughout the section, will be great if someone can add a picture for that as well Lpy4606 (talk) 01:24, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

UEFA Team Of The Season and Matt Busby Award

Ronaldo was in UEFA's team of the season for 2006 and 2007, aswell as winning the Matt Busby award again in 2004.

Picture of the World Cup incident

Is this picture below suitable for this article? WC Incident —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lpy4606 (talk • contribs) 08:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

it seems okay. xx KrazyKrusty 14:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Dated

He was rumoured to be dating persian actress maedeh.

he dated Gemma Atkinson for a while, but they arent together anymore =D xx KrazyKrusty (talk) 08:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Sources? Citations?116.15.83.28 11:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

i saw them driving round worsely together, and theres been photos of them leaving gemma, released on july 7th 2007, however, she was reportedally going out with a wigan player, according to the daily mail, a couple of days before she went on 'Im a celebrity' xxKrazyKrusty 23:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Cristiano Ronaldo's Total Appearences For Manchester United

He has actually played 208 total games for Manchester United, not 218. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SkittlePong (talk • contribs) 14:27, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

"He is hardly known outside of England and Portugal"

Delete this line, he is one of the most famous footballers going. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.171.129.69 (talk) 01:23, 18 December 2007 (UTC)