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The statement that this line was opened in 1970 was made by a suspicious user ID. Please verify this statement. --Gary D 06:23, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

From a quick look, [1] appears to verify this as being genuine. -- Chuq 07:05, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Date it was opened

It says the Indian Pacific service started in 1970, but also says that "even in 1968" when the gauge from Perth to Kalgoorlie was changed, a change of locomotives occurred in Kalgoorlie. So was it running in 1968, or not? - Mark 08:39, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

as a complete east - west - east service it was opened by 1970 and called the Indian Pacific, prior to this the service was a series of seperate train journeys each on different gauage lines, with seperate ticketing requirments. Gnangarra 05:41, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Connections

What about mentioning the ability to cross over to the Ghan Service in Pt Augusta or Adelaide Gnangarra 05:47, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

re connections

Suggest mentioning ability to connect (the term "cross-over" is archaic) between the "IP" and "The Ghan" at Adelaide only, as GSR does not adverside Pt Augusta as a connecting point between these trains. I travel twice-monthly ex Broken Hill on the "IP" and often sight the departures and arrivals of these trains as Keswick Terminal in Adelaide.--Jslasher 03:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

== re GSR's branding of it's first-class and economy-class services as "Gold Kangaroo" and "Red Kangaroo", respectively. I have added this, as these names are cited in all of the GSR brochures, timetables, etc., in print and on the internet.--Jslasher 03:32, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Accidents

What about the Glenbrook train accident? Surely this would rate a mention as one of the Indian Pacific's train accidents. No one was killed or injured on the IP, but it caused a great deal of damage to the car carriage. (JROBBO 12:23, 9 March 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Merge proposal

What am I missing? Trans-Australian Railway implies it refers to the stretch between Port Augusta and Kalgoorlie, yet the template there refers to Sydney through to Perth stops. I can't see the need for two articles. —Moondyne 14:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The TAR strictly speaking is between Port Augusta and Kalgoorlie, the section Sydney- Broken Hill is the Main West line and the Broken Hill line. What the template on the TAR page refers to is the route of the Indian Pacific, rather than the TAR as such, and should be changed. I will bring this up on the relevant template discussion. The Fulch 02:44, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - There are two sort of articles - one is about the passenger train service between Perth and Sydney - and the other is about the track - very different in time and space - in the Trains wiki project - they fall under quite separate categories within the trains project.

To join them could possibly set a precedent where articles that exist such as 'the Westland' would then be implied into an article about the Perth Kalgoorlie railway line. In the trains project we have the Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains/Passenger trains task force and there are separation of the two in most areas. Satu Suro 15:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the difference but reckon it's better explained in a single article. —Moondyne 15:59, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the passenger train Sydney/Adelaide/Perth is sufficiently different from the Pt Augusta-Kalgoorlie railway line to keep them as separate articles. I oppose a merge. Either or both may require minor edits to ensure they are properly focussed. --Scott Davis ^Talk 14:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - As per other reasons above. Nomadtales 22:25, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose' - the TAR predates the IP by a few decades, and was notable without the train that runs over it. Wongm 00:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How often does the IP run?

The article mentions that the journey takes 65 hours, but unless I've missed something it doesn't say how often the train runs. Could someone please add that information to the article? 81.158.1.156 (talk) 00:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]