Talk:Justin Trudeau

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NPOV Issues I have removed some phrasing in the article that didn't really conform to the NPOV standards. For one, some of the text [notably the "Canadians were impressed by his good looks and his eloquence, and immediately began to speculate that a career in politics might soon be ahead of him."] was perhaps more gushy than encyclopedic, and also wasn't strictly true [I doubt that many Albertans, for example, were too impressed by him]. --142.110.227.98 22:30, 21 December 2005 (UTC)--[reply]

couldn't be put any better, as a native albertan myself 124.87.233.177 14:48, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Removed several sentences from the article's final paragraph that were clearly derived from POV and had no citations or information to back up their claims.

First was Trudeau's lack of public service. Paul Dewar, MP for Ottawa Centre, was a teacher like Trudeau. Such a profession is generally considered public service, not to mention the fact that Trudeau has campaigned for several progressive NGOs and humanitarian causes. Countless MPs, like Maxime Bernier, had spent the majority of their professional careers working in the private sector, which also doesn't traditionally diminish the assertion that they are suited for public service.

Second, the paragraph claims that Pierre Trudeau, and Justin, entered public life merely to gain attention from the media and in the public forum. Trudeau was asked by the Pearson government, along with Jean Marchand and other significant contributors to Quebec's political dialogue, to join the Liberal party and seek a seat in the House of Commons. The statement made is a blatant attempt at discrediting both the father and the son without any evidence.

The vast majority of Liberal Party candidates are elected through nomination meetings with an extremely limited number of candidates appointed by the leader's office. The practice only became largely significant under the leadership of Paul Martin, depite the fact that the party's grassroots remained in charge of nominating almost every single Liberal candidate.

I removed the section altogether. It was completely unsourced and clearly doesn't follow Wikipedia policy. There's nothing to suggest Mr. Dion would block his nomination, or that there's some giant movement of resentment against Trudeau himself. If someone is going to post outrageous claims like that, they had better have sources for it.Sima Yi 01:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Sima. I wanted to do that, but didn't think I quite had the authority since I'm just editing from an IP and without an account.

Teachers are not generally considered to be public servants by political scientists. For example, they do not receive the protections and anonymity generally afforded to other members of the civil service. 38.112.96.231 20:15, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:38.112, you seem to be confusing public servant and public service. Is a teacher a public servant? the case can be made in either direction, but they do receive a pay cheque from the government of the province in which they work... Should it be considered public service? I think that is beyond debate, and that was the salient issue of the previous post. 72.38.235.87 (talk) 07:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]